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Is there a RAID 0 Equivalent for RAM?
What's the difference between RAID 1 software mirroring and Fake RAID?Can someone explain RAID-0 in plain English?Lost RAID after bootRAID striping on a desktop machineRAID 1+0 on Windows 7 Professional after installationSoftware RAID 0 under Window 7 on 2 HDD only (including system drive) - is it possibleWindows 10 Storage Spaces Poor SpeedIs there a RAID mode that allows files to be on one physical drive of the array?Creating a “virtual” RAID 0 on top of two drives in Windows?Is this explanation of RAID striping incorrect?
With hard drives, you can put them in a RAID 0 configuration to split data between drives to increase read and write speed. Is there an equivalent of this for RAM? If I have 16 GB of memory, for instance, can I split it into 2 8GB sections and implement striping across them? Note: I am not talking about using ramdisks at all. I am not trying to treat ram as hard drives but rather to speed it up. I have heard that there is a RAID 1 equivalent for RAM called mirroring, but I have not heard of a RAID 0 equivalent.
memory raid raid-0
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With hard drives, you can put them in a RAID 0 configuration to split data between drives to increase read and write speed. Is there an equivalent of this for RAM? If I have 16 GB of memory, for instance, can I split it into 2 8GB sections and implement striping across them? Note: I am not talking about using ramdisks at all. I am not trying to treat ram as hard drives but rather to speed it up. I have heard that there is a RAID 1 equivalent for RAM called mirroring, but I have not heard of a RAID 0 equivalent.
memory raid raid-0
8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaved_memory
– oakad
yesterday
You may need to look into benchmarks for this method FYI, SSD's and RAM sticks usually don't benefit from RAID configurations like HDD's do. I'm doubtful that RAM will see any speed up that's worth halving the amount of RAM you have.
– SupaJord
14 hours ago
add a comment |
With hard drives, you can put them in a RAID 0 configuration to split data between drives to increase read and write speed. Is there an equivalent of this for RAM? If I have 16 GB of memory, for instance, can I split it into 2 8GB sections and implement striping across them? Note: I am not talking about using ramdisks at all. I am not trying to treat ram as hard drives but rather to speed it up. I have heard that there is a RAID 1 equivalent for RAM called mirroring, but I have not heard of a RAID 0 equivalent.
memory raid raid-0
With hard drives, you can put them in a RAID 0 configuration to split data between drives to increase read and write speed. Is there an equivalent of this for RAM? If I have 16 GB of memory, for instance, can I split it into 2 8GB sections and implement striping across them? Note: I am not talking about using ramdisks at all. I am not trying to treat ram as hard drives but rather to speed it up. I have heard that there is a RAID 1 equivalent for RAM called mirroring, but I have not heard of a RAID 0 equivalent.
memory raid raid-0
memory raid raid-0
asked yesterday
kloddantkloddant
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaved_memory
– oakad
yesterday
You may need to look into benchmarks for this method FYI, SSD's and RAM sticks usually don't benefit from RAID configurations like HDD's do. I'm doubtful that RAM will see any speed up that's worth halving the amount of RAM you have.
– SupaJord
14 hours ago
add a comment |
8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaved_memory
– oakad
yesterday
You may need to look into benchmarks for this method FYI, SSD's and RAM sticks usually don't benefit from RAID configurations like HDD's do. I'm doubtful that RAM will see any speed up that's worth halving the amount of RAM you have.
– SupaJord
14 hours ago
8
8
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaved_memory
– oakad
yesterday
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaved_memory
– oakad
yesterday
You may need to look into benchmarks for this method FYI, SSD's and RAM sticks usually don't benefit from RAID configurations like HDD's do. I'm doubtful that RAM will see any speed up that's worth halving the amount of RAM you have.
– SupaJord
14 hours ago
You may need to look into benchmarks for this method FYI, SSD's and RAM sticks usually don't benefit from RAID configurations like HDD's do. I'm doubtful that RAM will see any speed up that's worth halving the amount of RAM you have.
– SupaJord
14 hours ago
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Dual-channel.
Consumer-grade computers have supported this for years now. You don't have to enable it explicitly, but you have to install RAM sticks into correct slots. Those are usually color coded, but there's no standard for this: some manufacturers mark slots on the same channel with the same color (so for dual-channel you have to use different colored slots), some use same color for slots that will enable dual-channel. Long story short, check with the manual.
Server-grade motherboards can support triple-channel or even quad-channel if the CPU can support it too (see the comment by J...)
6
The CPU must also support n-channel RAM to use it. Some motherboards which support quad-channel, for example, can also accomodate processor SKUs which do not. An i7-7740X in an X299 mobo is an example where the board supports quad channel but the CPU only dual.
– J...
19 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes, there's indeed an equivalent. But generally you just need to follow the instructions for your motherboard when adding RAM, and the setup will be automatic.
Technically this depends on your CPU, but in practice all CPU's that fit in the socket of your motherboard will use the same interface to RAM.
add a comment |
It's called interleaving. Simple implementations use two banks of RAM (two separate RAM sticks) but I've seen motherboards with up to four banks interleaved.
Like Raid 0, it exploits the fact that the CPU is often much faster than RAM and that there are lots of instances where you are basically streaming data to and from RAM. The memory controller allows the CPU to initiate the next write without waiting for the current write to complete.
For reads it works a bit like DMA where the memory controller will be told to prefetch the next values from RAM before the current data read is complete.
Note that this is not something that you normally can just enable. If and when you use motherboards that support this feature you typically must install RAM of the same size and type in specific paired slots.
– slebetman
20 hours ago
This sounds like probably what I am after. I'll have to read up on it more. So would it cut my visible memory in half and then double the speed?
– kloddant
16 hours ago
@kloddant Neither RAID-0 (striping), nor multi-channel, nor interleaving decrease amount of available memory, because there is no redundancy (unlike in higher RAIDs).
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
1
This is very low-level and must be implemented directly on RAM modules, right?
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
Not RAM modules. Typically these systems use standard RAM available at the time. What's needed is support from the motherboard and depending on the architecture the CPU (older systems with external memory controllers used to use generic CPUs but a lot of modern systems have integrated the memory controller)
– slebetman
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
As the other answers have covered, this has already been available for at least a decade.
The Core i7-940 was launched in 2008 and supported tri-channel memory. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/37148/intel-core-i7-940-processor-8m-cache-2-93-ghz-4-80-gt-s-intel-qpi.html
What the other answers do not cover is that 99% of people will not notice a difference. The biggest advantage for the average user is that dual-channel (or better) memory configurations help noticeably in gaming performance when using an:
- integrated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_2Z208nDGE
- dedicated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo
add a comment |
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Dual-channel.
Consumer-grade computers have supported this for years now. You don't have to enable it explicitly, but you have to install RAM sticks into correct slots. Those are usually color coded, but there's no standard for this: some manufacturers mark slots on the same channel with the same color (so for dual-channel you have to use different colored slots), some use same color for slots that will enable dual-channel. Long story short, check with the manual.
Server-grade motherboards can support triple-channel or even quad-channel if the CPU can support it too (see the comment by J...)
6
The CPU must also support n-channel RAM to use it. Some motherboards which support quad-channel, for example, can also accomodate processor SKUs which do not. An i7-7740X in an X299 mobo is an example where the board supports quad channel but the CPU only dual.
– J...
19 hours ago
add a comment |
Dual-channel.
Consumer-grade computers have supported this for years now. You don't have to enable it explicitly, but you have to install RAM sticks into correct slots. Those are usually color coded, but there's no standard for this: some manufacturers mark slots on the same channel with the same color (so for dual-channel you have to use different colored slots), some use same color for slots that will enable dual-channel. Long story short, check with the manual.
Server-grade motherboards can support triple-channel or even quad-channel if the CPU can support it too (see the comment by J...)
6
The CPU must also support n-channel RAM to use it. Some motherboards which support quad-channel, for example, can also accomodate processor SKUs which do not. An i7-7740X in an X299 mobo is an example where the board supports quad channel but the CPU only dual.
– J...
19 hours ago
add a comment |
Dual-channel.
Consumer-grade computers have supported this for years now. You don't have to enable it explicitly, but you have to install RAM sticks into correct slots. Those are usually color coded, but there's no standard for this: some manufacturers mark slots on the same channel with the same color (so for dual-channel you have to use different colored slots), some use same color for slots that will enable dual-channel. Long story short, check with the manual.
Server-grade motherboards can support triple-channel or even quad-channel if the CPU can support it too (see the comment by J...)
Dual-channel.
Consumer-grade computers have supported this for years now. You don't have to enable it explicitly, but you have to install RAM sticks into correct slots. Those are usually color coded, but there's no standard for this: some manufacturers mark slots on the same channel with the same color (so for dual-channel you have to use different colored slots), some use same color for slots that will enable dual-channel. Long story short, check with the manual.
Server-grade motherboards can support triple-channel or even quad-channel if the CPU can support it too (see the comment by J...)
edited 19 hours ago
answered 23 hours ago
gronostajgronostaj
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The CPU must also support n-channel RAM to use it. Some motherboards which support quad-channel, for example, can also accomodate processor SKUs which do not. An i7-7740X in an X299 mobo is an example where the board supports quad channel but the CPU only dual.
– J...
19 hours ago
add a comment |
6
The CPU must also support n-channel RAM to use it. Some motherboards which support quad-channel, for example, can also accomodate processor SKUs which do not. An i7-7740X in an X299 mobo is an example where the board supports quad channel but the CPU only dual.
– J...
19 hours ago
6
6
The CPU must also support n-channel RAM to use it. Some motherboards which support quad-channel, for example, can also accomodate processor SKUs which do not. An i7-7740X in an X299 mobo is an example where the board supports quad channel but the CPU only dual.
– J...
19 hours ago
The CPU must also support n-channel RAM to use it. Some motherboards which support quad-channel, for example, can also accomodate processor SKUs which do not. An i7-7740X in an X299 mobo is an example where the board supports quad channel but the CPU only dual.
– J...
19 hours ago
add a comment |
Yes, there's indeed an equivalent. But generally you just need to follow the instructions for your motherboard when adding RAM, and the setup will be automatic.
Technically this depends on your CPU, but in practice all CPU's that fit in the socket of your motherboard will use the same interface to RAM.
add a comment |
Yes, there's indeed an equivalent. But generally you just need to follow the instructions for your motherboard when adding RAM, and the setup will be automatic.
Technically this depends on your CPU, but in practice all CPU's that fit in the socket of your motherboard will use the same interface to RAM.
add a comment |
Yes, there's indeed an equivalent. But generally you just need to follow the instructions for your motherboard when adding RAM, and the setup will be automatic.
Technically this depends on your CPU, but in practice all CPU's that fit in the socket of your motherboard will use the same interface to RAM.
Yes, there's indeed an equivalent. But generally you just need to follow the instructions for your motherboard when adding RAM, and the setup will be automatic.
Technically this depends on your CPU, but in practice all CPU's that fit in the socket of your motherboard will use the same interface to RAM.
edited 21 hours ago
answered yesterday
MSaltersMSalters
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It's called interleaving. Simple implementations use two banks of RAM (two separate RAM sticks) but I've seen motherboards with up to four banks interleaved.
Like Raid 0, it exploits the fact that the CPU is often much faster than RAM and that there are lots of instances where you are basically streaming data to and from RAM. The memory controller allows the CPU to initiate the next write without waiting for the current write to complete.
For reads it works a bit like DMA where the memory controller will be told to prefetch the next values from RAM before the current data read is complete.
Note that this is not something that you normally can just enable. If and when you use motherboards that support this feature you typically must install RAM of the same size and type in specific paired slots.
– slebetman
20 hours ago
This sounds like probably what I am after. I'll have to read up on it more. So would it cut my visible memory in half and then double the speed?
– kloddant
16 hours ago
@kloddant Neither RAID-0 (striping), nor multi-channel, nor interleaving decrease amount of available memory, because there is no redundancy (unlike in higher RAIDs).
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
1
This is very low-level and must be implemented directly on RAM modules, right?
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
Not RAM modules. Typically these systems use standard RAM available at the time. What's needed is support from the motherboard and depending on the architecture the CPU (older systems with external memory controllers used to use generic CPUs but a lot of modern systems have integrated the memory controller)
– slebetman
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
It's called interleaving. Simple implementations use two banks of RAM (two separate RAM sticks) but I've seen motherboards with up to four banks interleaved.
Like Raid 0, it exploits the fact that the CPU is often much faster than RAM and that there are lots of instances where you are basically streaming data to and from RAM. The memory controller allows the CPU to initiate the next write without waiting for the current write to complete.
For reads it works a bit like DMA where the memory controller will be told to prefetch the next values from RAM before the current data read is complete.
Note that this is not something that you normally can just enable. If and when you use motherboards that support this feature you typically must install RAM of the same size and type in specific paired slots.
– slebetman
20 hours ago
This sounds like probably what I am after. I'll have to read up on it more. So would it cut my visible memory in half and then double the speed?
– kloddant
16 hours ago
@kloddant Neither RAID-0 (striping), nor multi-channel, nor interleaving decrease amount of available memory, because there is no redundancy (unlike in higher RAIDs).
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
1
This is very low-level and must be implemented directly on RAM modules, right?
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
Not RAM modules. Typically these systems use standard RAM available at the time. What's needed is support from the motherboard and depending on the architecture the CPU (older systems with external memory controllers used to use generic CPUs but a lot of modern systems have integrated the memory controller)
– slebetman
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
It's called interleaving. Simple implementations use two banks of RAM (two separate RAM sticks) but I've seen motherboards with up to four banks interleaved.
Like Raid 0, it exploits the fact that the CPU is often much faster than RAM and that there are lots of instances where you are basically streaming data to and from RAM. The memory controller allows the CPU to initiate the next write without waiting for the current write to complete.
For reads it works a bit like DMA where the memory controller will be told to prefetch the next values from RAM before the current data read is complete.
It's called interleaving. Simple implementations use two banks of RAM (two separate RAM sticks) but I've seen motherboards with up to four banks interleaved.
Like Raid 0, it exploits the fact that the CPU is often much faster than RAM and that there are lots of instances where you are basically streaming data to and from RAM. The memory controller allows the CPU to initiate the next write without waiting for the current write to complete.
For reads it works a bit like DMA where the memory controller will be told to prefetch the next values from RAM before the current data read is complete.
answered 20 hours ago
slebetmanslebetman
42728
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Note that this is not something that you normally can just enable. If and when you use motherboards that support this feature you typically must install RAM of the same size and type in specific paired slots.
– slebetman
20 hours ago
This sounds like probably what I am after. I'll have to read up on it more. So would it cut my visible memory in half and then double the speed?
– kloddant
16 hours ago
@kloddant Neither RAID-0 (striping), nor multi-channel, nor interleaving decrease amount of available memory, because there is no redundancy (unlike in higher RAIDs).
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
1
This is very low-level and must be implemented directly on RAM modules, right?
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
Not RAM modules. Typically these systems use standard RAM available at the time. What's needed is support from the motherboard and depending on the architecture the CPU (older systems with external memory controllers used to use generic CPUs but a lot of modern systems have integrated the memory controller)
– slebetman
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
Note that this is not something that you normally can just enable. If and when you use motherboards that support this feature you typically must install RAM of the same size and type in specific paired slots.
– slebetman
20 hours ago
This sounds like probably what I am after. I'll have to read up on it more. So would it cut my visible memory in half and then double the speed?
– kloddant
16 hours ago
@kloddant Neither RAID-0 (striping), nor multi-channel, nor interleaving decrease amount of available memory, because there is no redundancy (unlike in higher RAIDs).
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
1
This is very low-level and must be implemented directly on RAM modules, right?
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
Not RAM modules. Typically these systems use standard RAM available at the time. What's needed is support from the motherboard and depending on the architecture the CPU (older systems with external memory controllers used to use generic CPUs but a lot of modern systems have integrated the memory controller)
– slebetman
3 hours ago
Note that this is not something that you normally can just enable. If and when you use motherboards that support this feature you typically must install RAM of the same size and type in specific paired slots.
– slebetman
20 hours ago
Note that this is not something that you normally can just enable. If and when you use motherboards that support this feature you typically must install RAM of the same size and type in specific paired slots.
– slebetman
20 hours ago
This sounds like probably what I am after. I'll have to read up on it more. So would it cut my visible memory in half and then double the speed?
– kloddant
16 hours ago
This sounds like probably what I am after. I'll have to read up on it more. So would it cut my visible memory in half and then double the speed?
– kloddant
16 hours ago
@kloddant Neither RAID-0 (striping), nor multi-channel, nor interleaving decrease amount of available memory, because there is no redundancy (unlike in higher RAIDs).
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
@kloddant Neither RAID-0 (striping), nor multi-channel, nor interleaving decrease amount of available memory, because there is no redundancy (unlike in higher RAIDs).
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
1
1
This is very low-level and must be implemented directly on RAM modules, right?
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
This is very low-level and must be implemented directly on RAM modules, right?
– gronostaj
15 hours ago
Not RAM modules. Typically these systems use standard RAM available at the time. What's needed is support from the motherboard and depending on the architecture the CPU (older systems with external memory controllers used to use generic CPUs but a lot of modern systems have integrated the memory controller)
– slebetman
3 hours ago
Not RAM modules. Typically these systems use standard RAM available at the time. What's needed is support from the motherboard and depending on the architecture the CPU (older systems with external memory controllers used to use generic CPUs but a lot of modern systems have integrated the memory controller)
– slebetman
3 hours ago
|
show 1 more comment
As the other answers have covered, this has already been available for at least a decade.
The Core i7-940 was launched in 2008 and supported tri-channel memory. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/37148/intel-core-i7-940-processor-8m-cache-2-93-ghz-4-80-gt-s-intel-qpi.html
What the other answers do not cover is that 99% of people will not notice a difference. The biggest advantage for the average user is that dual-channel (or better) memory configurations help noticeably in gaming performance when using an:
- integrated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_2Z208nDGE
- dedicated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo
add a comment |
As the other answers have covered, this has already been available for at least a decade.
The Core i7-940 was launched in 2008 and supported tri-channel memory. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/37148/intel-core-i7-940-processor-8m-cache-2-93-ghz-4-80-gt-s-intel-qpi.html
What the other answers do not cover is that 99% of people will not notice a difference. The biggest advantage for the average user is that dual-channel (or better) memory configurations help noticeably in gaming performance when using an:
- integrated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_2Z208nDGE
- dedicated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo
add a comment |
As the other answers have covered, this has already been available for at least a decade.
The Core i7-940 was launched in 2008 and supported tri-channel memory. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/37148/intel-core-i7-940-processor-8m-cache-2-93-ghz-4-80-gt-s-intel-qpi.html
What the other answers do not cover is that 99% of people will not notice a difference. The biggest advantage for the average user is that dual-channel (or better) memory configurations help noticeably in gaming performance when using an:
- integrated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_2Z208nDGE
- dedicated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo
As the other answers have covered, this has already been available for at least a decade.
The Core i7-940 was launched in 2008 and supported tri-channel memory. https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/37148/intel-core-i7-940-processor-8m-cache-2-93-ghz-4-80-gt-s-intel-qpi.html
What the other answers do not cover is that 99% of people will not notice a difference. The biggest advantage for the average user is that dual-channel (or better) memory configurations help noticeably in gaming performance when using an:
- integrated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s_2Z208nDGE
- dedicated GPU - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo
edited 10 hours ago
answered 15 hours ago
MonkeyZeusMonkeyZeus
4,79131635
4,79131635
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interleaved_memory
– oakad
yesterday
You may need to look into benchmarks for this method FYI, SSD's and RAM sticks usually don't benefit from RAID configurations like HDD's do. I'm doubtful that RAM will see any speed up that's worth halving the amount of RAM you have.
– SupaJord
14 hours ago