Mrthdrb

I was traveling from Germany to Ireland, with UK tourist visa. I am a Turkish citizen and I am allowed to do so. (Visa waiver programme)

I checked in to the flight, and made my boarding pass signed from Ryanair's counter. Then during boarding, at the last check before we enter the plane, as the responsible officer was not aware of the waiver programme, she said I can't enter to Ireland with UK visa and denied me from boarding.

She also refused to show her badge number, and she told me instead. (Possible gave me a fake badge number to get rid of me.)

As my papers are good to enter to Ireland, I had to book another flight from another airline, and enter to Ireland without a problem the same day.

To make a complaint, I contacted with Airline first, and stated that the officer denied me from boarding. They replied "People at the last check are not our officers, you should make a complaint to the airport authorities."

I find it hard to believe, because the airport won't be fined for people travelling with wrong documents, airlines will. And Only Ryanair hires this type of people who denies me from boarding without consulting anyone and hide their badge number like a child.

Do you have an information about who should I contact with?
Or how can I sue them?

Edit: I contacted with Ryanair, they said "Those people are Airport's staff you should make a complaint to there." I am not buying it and I don't want to lose time trying to figure out who is responsible, as it is limited.

In a comment, you wrote that Ryanair said

"People checks during boarding are not our staff, ask to the Airport". I don't think that's correct.

You are right. Even if the person was employed by another company, that company acts as the airline's agent, and the airline is liable for the agent's actions. You should absolutely be entitled to a full refund plus denied boarding compensation.

(If Ryanair's liability to you arises because of the agent's actions, then Ryanair may have a claim for compensation against the agent. But whether that is the case depends on Ryanair's contract with the agent, and the question is no concern of yours whatsoever.)

Ryanair is unlikely ever to say so explicitly. Instead, they will probably hope that if they keep telling you that they're not liable, you will eventually believe them. Many people would believe such a statement, so this strategy is probably cost effective for them. Therefore, you should not waste your breath or time trying to get them to concede the point. Just file your formal complaint.

The EU air passenger rights complaint form says that a complaint should first be submitted to the airline. Your e-mail exchange may already satisfy that requirement, but if you decide that it does not, you should probably fill out this form and send it to Ryanair. That will let them know that you know your rights and that you are serious about getting your refund and your compensation. I might try that anyway, since if they get that message you might get your money sooner than you would if you complain to the German government.

If you decide that your e-mail exchange does satisfy the requirement to submit the claim to the airline first, then you can send the form directly to the "national enforcement body" in Germany. That is the

Luftfahrt-Bundesamt (LBA)

DE - 38144 Braunschweig

Tel.: +49 531 2355 115

Fax: +49 531 2355 9099

fluggastrechte@lba.de
http://www.lba.de

The complaint should probably include the following:

• a description of the visa waiver program


• a detailed and specific explanation of why you were eligible for the visa waiver program


• a detailed and specific explanation of why Ryanair and its gate agent should have known that you were eligible

The fact that you subsequently entered Ireland under the terms of the program is good evidence that you were in fact eligible for the program, but the most important thing here is likely to be what Ryanair should have known. I would therefore mention the subsequent visit to Ireland, but I would not dwell on it.

In case it helps, here's what TIMATIC has to say. TIMATIC is the database that the ground agent should have used to decide whether to issue a boarding pass and allow you on the plane:

Visa

Visa required.

Visa Exemptions:

Nationals of Turkey with a valid C visa issued by the United Kingdom if they have first entered the United Kingdom and been granted a stay of 180 days in the United Kingdom. They are visa exempt for a maximum stay of 90 days in Ireland (Rep.) or until the end of the period of stay granted in the United Kingdom, whichever is shorter.

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  Passengers arriving in the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland, and traveling to Ireland (Rep.), the visa waiver programme will apply and only a visa issued by the United Kingdom will be required. The visit to Ireland (Rep.) must be within the stay granted within the United Kingdom.

  
  
  

  Passengers are permitted to travel to a third country before traveling to Ireland (Rep.) if the visa issued by United Kingdom is still valid. Furthermore, re-entry into Ireland (Rep.) from a third country is permitted if the visa issued by the United Kingdom is still valid and period of the stay granted in the United Kingdom is still valid. Passengers with a long term visa must visit Ireland (Rep.) within a period of the current stay granted in the United Kingdom.

  
  
  

  Passengers arriving first in Ireland (Rep.) and traveling to the United Kingdom, including Northern Ireland, and then returning to Ireland (Rep.) will require separate visas issued by Ireland (Rep.) and the United Kingdom. However the visa issued by the United Kingdom will be accepted under the visa waiver programme for the return journey to Ireland (Rep.).

  
  



• Not applicable to C visas issued for the purpose of transit, marriage or to enter into a civil partnership.

Passengers with a family member residence card issued by Germany. The card must be issued to family members of a national of Switzerland or an EEA Member State .

In particular, note the second paragraph under the first bullet, which I repeat here with added emphasis:

Passengers are permitted to travel to a third country before traveling to Ireland (Rep.) if the visa issued by United Kingdom is still valid. Furthermore, re-entry into Ireland (Rep.) from a third country is permitted if the visa issued by the United Kingdom is still valid and period of the stay granted in the United Kingdom is still valid. Passengers with a long term visa must visit Ireland (Rep.) within a period of the current stay granted in the United Kingdom.

By "detailed and specific," I mean that you should for example mention the date on which you were admitted to the UK and the length of your period of admission or the date on which it was set to expire, to make it clear to anyone reading the complaint that you did in fact qualify for the visa waiver.

Did you buy your flight ticket with a credit card relatively recently?
Check your credit card terms and conditions and benefit programs. You may be able to file a claim through the credit card company for the original (probably less expensive) ticket which should at least get somebody's attention at RyanAir.

Ryanair’s complaints procedure is available here https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful-info/help-centre

You can complete an online complaint form or write to the Custoner Service department. Their published response times are 10 and 15 working days respectively.

Regarding your desire to sue, the Ryanair terms and conditions of carriage state

2.4.2 – You are entitled to bring a claim against us in your local court, except that Irish courts shall have exclusive jurisdiction in relation to claims under EU Regulation 261/2004 where you have not complied with Articles 15.2.1 to 15.2.7 of these Terms & Conditions of Carriage and in relation to non-consumer (i.e., business to business) claims.

so the most practical legal resolution probably involves the civil courts in your country of residence (Germany?). Since Ryanair were the people you had a contract with, then they are the best point of contact for you, even if the gate checks are subcontracted. Note that this may end up costing more in time and money than you win.