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Is my guitar’s action too high?
Strings too stiff on a recently purchased acoustic guitar | Cort AD880CEIs the action of my guitar really high?Μy little finger is too weak to play guitarWith guitar, how long should I give my fingers to strengthen / callous?When playing a fret the guitar sounds mutedPlaying (Barre) chords up the guitar neckI think my guitar strings are wound too tight and I can't play barre chordsF barre chord on an SG guitarHow to find to the right strings of a barre chord by feel?High action on higher fret on my steel acoustic guitar

This is the first fret of the guitar
I have trouble playing barre chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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This is the first fret of the guitar
I have trouble playing barre chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 11:28
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If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 22 at 12:41
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This is the first fret of the guitar
I have trouble playing barre chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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This is the first fret of the guitar
I have trouble playing barre chords and when I play open chords my fingers get sore easily.
I have friends that play guitar and they said that it's hard to press.
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i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 11:28
1
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 22 at 12:41
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3
i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 11:28
1
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 22 at 12:41
3
3
i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 11:28
i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 11:28
1
1
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 22 at 12:41
If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 22 at 12:41
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I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.

Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
1
The guitar is custom-built from a mantelpiece, and the bass is a Yamaha YEP842.
– Adam Barnes
Apr 22 at 13:19
2
@AdamBarnes - the prize is, as yet, unclaimed :P
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 13:30
Rickenbacker 4001 bass. This is quite obvious, as the fretboard has that Ric orange-brownish tone and the position markers are the triangular pearloids. No idea about the guitar, though.
– Scott
Apr 22 at 21:09
@Scott - you're halfway to the prize. Yes a 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 [originally white, now only the undercoat is white where the top coat is worn off]. I thought the 6-string would be harder, though note the semi-gloss varnish on the neck; not many have that.
– Tetsujin
Apr 23 at 15:28
The truss rod cover suggests ESP, but I don't recognize the rest of the neck. Is that the original nut?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 23 at 16:43
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It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
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Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
1
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:22
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:26
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In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:30
2
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:34
1
Tim is right: it's often said that thinner strings go out of tune easier, but it's in practice not that simple. What's true is that they can be bent easier, so, sure – if you bend accidentally, then the intonation will be off. But – don't bend accidentally! Anyways this is still bad even on thick strings, just won't be as obvious. And bending shouldn't take the guitar out of tune, usually friction is responsible – thick strings are often actually worse in that regard. Not to speak of their higher inharmonicity etc.. — What I'd agree is: short scale length tends to make tuning problems.
– leftaroundabout
Apr 22 at 17:54
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That height is definitely not a nut issue, the nut looks low enough. Have you had anyone help you set the neck bow? How is your bridge height? You could try adjusting the neck first and then the bridge height second. Another option, not sure what gauage strings you are using but you could try a lighter set. I know at least one string maker ( i think ernie ball) makes a set with lighter bass strings and heavier small strings. I liked the sound and feel of that set. They are a lot easier on your fingers.
Or like some of us have done, suck it up and keep playing until your fingers build enough callous that you don't feel anything anymore :P
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I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.

Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
1
The guitar is custom-built from a mantelpiece, and the bass is a Yamaha YEP842.
– Adam Barnes
Apr 22 at 13:19
2
@AdamBarnes - the prize is, as yet, unclaimed :P
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 13:30
Rickenbacker 4001 bass. This is quite obvious, as the fretboard has that Ric orange-brownish tone and the position markers are the triangular pearloids. No idea about the guitar, though.
– Scott
Apr 22 at 21:09
@Scott - you're halfway to the prize. Yes a 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 [originally white, now only the undercoat is white where the top coat is worn off]. I thought the 6-string would be harder, though note the semi-gloss varnish on the neck; not many have that.
– Tetsujin
Apr 23 at 15:28
The truss rod cover suggests ESP, but I don't recognize the rest of the neck. Is that the original nut?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 23 at 16:43
|
show 3 more comments
I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.

Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
1
The guitar is custom-built from a mantelpiece, and the bass is a Yamaha YEP842.
– Adam Barnes
Apr 22 at 13:19
2
@AdamBarnes - the prize is, as yet, unclaimed :P
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 13:30
Rickenbacker 4001 bass. This is quite obvious, as the fretboard has that Ric orange-brownish tone and the position markers are the triangular pearloids. No idea about the guitar, though.
– Scott
Apr 22 at 21:09
@Scott - you're halfway to the prize. Yes a 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 [originally white, now only the undercoat is white where the top coat is worn off]. I thought the 6-string would be harder, though note the semi-gloss varnish on the neck; not many have that.
– Tetsujin
Apr 23 at 15:28
The truss rod cover suggests ESP, but I don't recognize the rest of the neck. Is that the original nut?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 23 at 16:43
|
show 3 more comments
I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.

Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
I'm porting this to the answer space just to have somewhere to hang the photo...
It doesn't really constitute an answer, though it could become one once we have more info.
I'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
Quick snap of one of my 6-strings & the bass it just happened to be leaning against, showing a much 'flatter' slope to the action as it progresses up the neck.

Should I offer prizes for the first person to correctly identify both? ;)
As noted elsewhere - the issue could be the neck relief [ie, the amount of curve it has in it] or it could be the overall action at the bridge is set too high... or indeed a little of both.
I'd be hesitant to cut the nut any further, it already looks slightly deeper than optimum to me.
answered Apr 22 at 11:59
TetsujinTetsujin
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1
The guitar is custom-built from a mantelpiece, and the bass is a Yamaha YEP842.
– Adam Barnes
Apr 22 at 13:19
2
@AdamBarnes - the prize is, as yet, unclaimed :P
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 13:30
Rickenbacker 4001 bass. This is quite obvious, as the fretboard has that Ric orange-brownish tone and the position markers are the triangular pearloids. No idea about the guitar, though.
– Scott
Apr 22 at 21:09
@Scott - you're halfway to the prize. Yes a 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 [originally white, now only the undercoat is white where the top coat is worn off]. I thought the 6-string would be harder, though note the semi-gloss varnish on the neck; not many have that.
– Tetsujin
Apr 23 at 15:28
The truss rod cover suggests ESP, but I don't recognize the rest of the neck. Is that the original nut?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 23 at 16:43
|
show 3 more comments
1
The guitar is custom-built from a mantelpiece, and the bass is a Yamaha YEP842.
– Adam Barnes
Apr 22 at 13:19
2
@AdamBarnes - the prize is, as yet, unclaimed :P
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 13:30
Rickenbacker 4001 bass. This is quite obvious, as the fretboard has that Ric orange-brownish tone and the position markers are the triangular pearloids. No idea about the guitar, though.
– Scott
Apr 22 at 21:09
@Scott - you're halfway to the prize. Yes a 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 [originally white, now only the undercoat is white where the top coat is worn off]. I thought the 6-string would be harder, though note the semi-gloss varnish on the neck; not many have that.
– Tetsujin
Apr 23 at 15:28
The truss rod cover suggests ESP, but I don't recognize the rest of the neck. Is that the original nut?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 23 at 16:43
1
1
The guitar is custom-built from a mantelpiece, and the bass is a Yamaha YEP842.
– Adam Barnes
Apr 22 at 13:19
The guitar is custom-built from a mantelpiece, and the bass is a Yamaha YEP842.
– Adam Barnes
Apr 22 at 13:19
2
2
@AdamBarnes - the prize is, as yet, unclaimed :P
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 13:30
@AdamBarnes - the prize is, as yet, unclaimed :P
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 13:30
Rickenbacker 4001 bass. This is quite obvious, as the fretboard has that Ric orange-brownish tone and the position markers are the triangular pearloids. No idea about the guitar, though.
– Scott
Apr 22 at 21:09
Rickenbacker 4001 bass. This is quite obvious, as the fretboard has that Ric orange-brownish tone and the position markers are the triangular pearloids. No idea about the guitar, though.
– Scott
Apr 22 at 21:09
@Scott - you're halfway to the prize. Yes a 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 [originally white, now only the undercoat is white where the top coat is worn off]. I thought the 6-string would be harder, though note the semi-gloss varnish on the neck; not many have that.
– Tetsujin
Apr 23 at 15:28
@Scott - you're halfway to the prize. Yes a 1976 Rickenbacker 4001 [originally white, now only the undercoat is white where the top coat is worn off]. I thought the 6-string would be harder, though note the semi-gloss varnish on the neck; not many have that.
– Tetsujin
Apr 23 at 15:28
The truss rod cover suggests ESP, but I don't recognize the rest of the neck. Is that the original nut?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 23 at 16:43
The truss rod cover suggests ESP, but I don't recognize the rest of the neck. Is that the original nut?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 23 at 16:43
|
show 3 more comments
It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
add a comment |
It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
add a comment |
It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
It does look high. This could be due to a couple of factors.
The neck may be bent. All guitar necks have a slight bend in them - it's called relief - to stop the strings buzzing on any frets. But too much relief will give your symptoms, and is remedied in part by tightening the trussrod. Not recommended to be done by the inexperienced.
The action may simply be high due to the saddles/bridge being too high. On a lot of guitars, the bridge has a couple of adjusting screws that lower and raise the whole bridge. Others have individual saddles which are adjustable for each string's height. Some have a bridge that cannot be altered except by shaving some off it.
Without a view of the whole of the neck, it's difficult to say more, but lower guage strings often help, as they are not under so much tension, thus being easier to fret. Last resort would be deepen the nut slots, but not particularly recommended.
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Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
1
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:22
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:26
1
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:30
2
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:34
1
Tim is right: it's often said that thinner strings go out of tune easier, but it's in practice not that simple. What's true is that they can be bent easier, so, sure – if you bend accidentally, then the intonation will be off. But – don't bend accidentally! Anyways this is still bad even on thick strings, just won't be as obvious. And bending shouldn't take the guitar out of tune, usually friction is responsible – thick strings are often actually worse in that regard. Not to speak of their higher inharmonicity etc.. — What I'd agree is: short scale length tends to make tuning problems.
– leftaroundabout
Apr 22 at 17:54
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show 3 more comments
Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
1
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:22
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:26
1
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:30
2
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:34
1
Tim is right: it's often said that thinner strings go out of tune easier, but it's in practice not that simple. What's true is that they can be bent easier, so, sure – if you bend accidentally, then the intonation will be off. But – don't bend accidentally! Anyways this is still bad even on thick strings, just won't be as obvious. And bending shouldn't take the guitar out of tune, usually friction is responsible – thick strings are often actually worse in that regard. Not to speak of their higher inharmonicity etc.. — What I'd agree is: short scale length tends to make tuning problems.
– leftaroundabout
Apr 22 at 17:54
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Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
Only you can determine if the string action is too high. Lowering the action can give problems with string buzz, and especially if you are striking the strings hard. But give it a go to lower the action. The guitar gets easier to play with lower action.
Another thing you could try is to just change to thinner strings. Thicker strings gives more tuning stability and a slightly heavier sound, but they also makes it harder to play.
But yeah, from the picture I'd say that the action is VERY high. You probably should make the groves in the nut deeper.
answered Apr 22 at 11:09
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What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:22
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:26
1
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:30
2
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:34
1
Tim is right: it's often said that thinner strings go out of tune easier, but it's in practice not that simple. What's true is that they can be bent easier, so, sure – if you bend accidentally, then the intonation will be off. But – don't bend accidentally! Anyways this is still bad even on thick strings, just won't be as obvious. And bending shouldn't take the guitar out of tune, usually friction is responsible – thick strings are often actually worse in that regard. Not to speak of their higher inharmonicity etc.. — What I'd agree is: short scale length tends to make tuning problems.
– leftaroundabout
Apr 22 at 17:54
|
show 3 more comments
1
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:22
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:26
1
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:30
2
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:34
1
Tim is right: it's often said that thinner strings go out of tune easier, but it's in practice not that simple. What's true is that they can be bent easier, so, sure – if you bend accidentally, then the intonation will be off. But – don't bend accidentally! Anyways this is still bad even on thick strings, just won't be as obvious. And bending shouldn't take the guitar out of tune, usually friction is responsible – thick strings are often actually worse in that regard. Not to speak of their higher inharmonicity etc.. — What I'd agree is: short scale length tends to make tuning problems.
– leftaroundabout
Apr 22 at 17:54
1
1
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:22
What is it about thinner strings and tuning stability? I use .008s and have no problems.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:22
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:26
@Tim The lower the tension, the less stable the tuning is. If you play really hard, thin strings may become a problem. If you want to investigate this effect, try to tune a string down a fifth or so and see how easy it is to bend. You will bend the note by just pressing it to hard against the fretboard.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:26
1
1
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:30
In best part of 50 yrs with such strings, and a very good action on all my guitars, I suppose I've learnt not to press harder than necessary, and my playing is in tune. So, it's not the tuning that's out in your statement, it's more the propensity for a player to play it out of tune.
– Tim
Apr 22 at 11:30
2
2
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:34
@Tim It's simple physics. The formula is f=sqrt(T/d)/2L where f is the frequency, T is the tension, d is the linear density and L is the length of the string. With higher linear density is, a certain change in tension will have less effect on the frequency.
– Broman
Apr 22 at 11:34
1
1
Tim is right: it's often said that thinner strings go out of tune easier, but it's in practice not that simple. What's true is that they can be bent easier, so, sure – if you bend accidentally, then the intonation will be off. But – don't bend accidentally! Anyways this is still bad even on thick strings, just won't be as obvious. And bending shouldn't take the guitar out of tune, usually friction is responsible – thick strings are often actually worse in that regard. Not to speak of their higher inharmonicity etc.. — What I'd agree is: short scale length tends to make tuning problems.
– leftaroundabout
Apr 22 at 17:54
Tim is right: it's often said that thinner strings go out of tune easier, but it's in practice not that simple. What's true is that they can be bent easier, so, sure – if you bend accidentally, then the intonation will be off. But – don't bend accidentally! Anyways this is still bad even on thick strings, just won't be as obvious. And bending shouldn't take the guitar out of tune, usually friction is responsible – thick strings are often actually worse in that regard. Not to speak of their higher inharmonicity etc.. — What I'd agree is: short scale length tends to make tuning problems.
– leftaroundabout
Apr 22 at 17:54
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That height is definitely not a nut issue, the nut looks low enough. Have you had anyone help you set the neck bow? How is your bridge height? You could try adjusting the neck first and then the bridge height second. Another option, not sure what gauage strings you are using but you could try a lighter set. I know at least one string maker ( i think ernie ball) makes a set with lighter bass strings and heavier small strings. I liked the sound and feel of that set. They are a lot easier on your fingers.
Or like some of us have done, suck it up and keep playing until your fingers build enough callous that you don't feel anything anymore :P
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That height is definitely not a nut issue, the nut looks low enough. Have you had anyone help you set the neck bow? How is your bridge height? You could try adjusting the neck first and then the bridge height second. Another option, not sure what gauage strings you are using but you could try a lighter set. I know at least one string maker ( i think ernie ball) makes a set with lighter bass strings and heavier small strings. I liked the sound and feel of that set. They are a lot easier on your fingers.
Or like some of us have done, suck it up and keep playing until your fingers build enough callous that you don't feel anything anymore :P
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That height is definitely not a nut issue, the nut looks low enough. Have you had anyone help you set the neck bow? How is your bridge height? You could try adjusting the neck first and then the bridge height second. Another option, not sure what gauage strings you are using but you could try a lighter set. I know at least one string maker ( i think ernie ball) makes a set with lighter bass strings and heavier small strings. I liked the sound and feel of that set. They are a lot easier on your fingers.
Or like some of us have done, suck it up and keep playing until your fingers build enough callous that you don't feel anything anymore :P
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That height is definitely not a nut issue, the nut looks low enough. Have you had anyone help you set the neck bow? How is your bridge height? You could try adjusting the neck first and then the bridge height second. Another option, not sure what gauage strings you are using but you could try a lighter set. I know at least one string maker ( i think ernie ball) makes a set with lighter bass strings and heavier small strings. I liked the sound and feel of that set. They are a lot easier on your fingers.
Or like some of us have done, suck it up and keep playing until your fingers build enough callous that you don't feel anything anymore :P
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i'd like to see another pic of more of the neck, because that is starting out at one heck of an angle; so either the neck is bent way out of true, or the action at the 12th fret is about half an inch:
– Tetsujin
Apr 22 at 11:28
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If you press a string down onto both the first and highest fret, how much distance is there between the string and the frets halfway up the neck?
– Your Uncle Bob
Apr 22 at 12:41