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Monthly twice production release for my software project
The Next CEO of Stack OverflowWhat techniques are effective for Scrum teams within organizations that do waterfall release planning?How frequently can a release happen within a Scrum Sprint?Why does our Sprint Planning not align with our original Release Plan?Do people use sticky notes for release planning still?How to make Release Planning more accurate?Team velocity dramatically slows down to the end of a sprintWho performs a release and how is it estimated?Scrum certification for Release manager managing agile releasesIs it correct to create pre-release versions in Jira?How can I know if my app is ready for beta release?
I am working as a product owner in a fintech based software company. My development team follows scrum methodology and 2 weeks sprint. They tried to follow scrum ceremony but not to do story estimation. From my stakeholder they set 1 monthly production release each month, say 25th of each month and some time any hotfix release. Our release cycle is much complex. First QA test the feature in SIT in environment. After get the signed off fron SIT qa, dev team build the package and send it to devips for UAT deployment. After UAT deployment, UAT tester test the build items (one thing to mention, UAT deployment only happen at time of product release not after each sprint deliverable.). If UAT tester found issue then it get backs to dev team, but they are in middle of sprint and doing some other work. Then dev team fixes the issues raise by UAT tester and send it to them again. Finally signed off from UAT it goes for production.
This is the whole scenario for our production pipeline.
Now my question how could I streamline the process. As development team got frustrated that they need to work sometimes in the middle of the sprint for bug fix or priority. Need guideline/expert opinion to manage production release properly with follow sprint.
release-plan
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I am working as a product owner in a fintech based software company. My development team follows scrum methodology and 2 weeks sprint. They tried to follow scrum ceremony but not to do story estimation. From my stakeholder they set 1 monthly production release each month, say 25th of each month and some time any hotfix release. Our release cycle is much complex. First QA test the feature in SIT in environment. After get the signed off fron SIT qa, dev team build the package and send it to devips for UAT deployment. After UAT deployment, UAT tester test the build items (one thing to mention, UAT deployment only happen at time of product release not after each sprint deliverable.). If UAT tester found issue then it get backs to dev team, but they are in middle of sprint and doing some other work. Then dev team fixes the issues raise by UAT tester and send it to them again. Finally signed off from UAT it goes for production.
This is the whole scenario for our production pipeline.
Now my question how could I streamline the process. As development team got frustrated that they need to work sometimes in the middle of the sprint for bug fix or priority. Need guideline/expert opinion to manage production release properly with follow sprint.
release-plan
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Since, we are talking Fintech: what is actually the risk if the software has a serious bug? Millions? Billions? Then you should consider if a methodology for safety critical software might be preferable over an agile process.
– lalala
2 days ago
Yes thats true, but Agile is most popular and my management knows it well. And I believe my problem is common and many experience this.
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
How many people is there on the whole development + QA + infrastructure team?
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
@lalala: We are actually using an agile process to build safety critical software (of the sort that needs to be officially certified), so the two don't exclude each other.
– Bart van Ingen Schenau
yesterday
add a comment |
I am working as a product owner in a fintech based software company. My development team follows scrum methodology and 2 weeks sprint. They tried to follow scrum ceremony but not to do story estimation. From my stakeholder they set 1 monthly production release each month, say 25th of each month and some time any hotfix release. Our release cycle is much complex. First QA test the feature in SIT in environment. After get the signed off fron SIT qa, dev team build the package and send it to devips for UAT deployment. After UAT deployment, UAT tester test the build items (one thing to mention, UAT deployment only happen at time of product release not after each sprint deliverable.). If UAT tester found issue then it get backs to dev team, but they are in middle of sprint and doing some other work. Then dev team fixes the issues raise by UAT tester and send it to them again. Finally signed off from UAT it goes for production.
This is the whole scenario for our production pipeline.
Now my question how could I streamline the process. As development team got frustrated that they need to work sometimes in the middle of the sprint for bug fix or priority. Need guideline/expert opinion to manage production release properly with follow sprint.
release-plan
asked 2 days ago
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313
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I am working as a product owner in a fintech based software company. My development team follows scrum methodology and 2 weeks sprint. They tried to follow scrum ceremony but not to do story estimation. From my stakeholder they set 1 monthly production release each month, say 25th of each month and some time any hotfix release. Our release cycle is much complex. First QA test the feature in SIT in environment. After get the signed off fron SIT qa, dev team build the package and send it to devips for UAT deployment. After UAT deployment, UAT tester test the build items (one thing to mention, UAT deployment only happen at time of product release not after each sprint deliverable.). If UAT tester found issue then it get backs to dev team, but they are in middle of sprint and doing some other work. Then dev team fixes the issues raise by UAT tester and send it to them again. Finally signed off from UAT it goes for production.
This is the whole scenario for our production pipeline.
Now my question how could I streamline the process. As development team got frustrated that they need to work sometimes in the middle of the sprint for bug fix or priority. Need guideline/expert opinion to manage production release properly with follow sprint.
release-plan
release-plan
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Since, we are talking Fintech: what is actually the risk if the software has a serious bug? Millions? Billions? Then you should consider if a methodology for safety critical software might be preferable over an agile process.
– lalala
2 days ago
Yes thats true, but Agile is most popular and my management knows it well. And I believe my problem is common and many experience this.
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
How many people is there on the whole development + QA + infrastructure team?
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
@lalala: We are actually using an agile process to build safety critical software (of the sort that needs to be officially certified), so the two don't exclude each other.
– Bart van Ingen Schenau
yesterday
add a comment |
2
Since, we are talking Fintech: what is actually the risk if the software has a serious bug? Millions? Billions? Then you should consider if a methodology for safety critical software might be preferable over an agile process.
– lalala
2 days ago
Yes thats true, but Agile is most popular and my management knows it well. And I believe my problem is common and many experience this.
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
How many people is there on the whole development + QA + infrastructure team?
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
@lalala: We are actually using an agile process to build safety critical software (of the sort that needs to be officially certified), so the two don't exclude each other.
– Bart van Ingen Schenau
yesterday
2
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Since, we are talking Fintech: what is actually the risk if the software has a serious bug? Millions? Billions? Then you should consider if a methodology for safety critical software might be preferable over an agile process.
– lalala
2 days ago
Since, we are talking Fintech: what is actually the risk if the software has a serious bug? Millions? Billions? Then you should consider if a methodology for safety critical software might be preferable over an agile process.
– lalala
2 days ago
Yes thats true, but Agile is most popular and my management knows it well. And I believe my problem is common and many experience this.
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
Yes thats true, but Agile is most popular and my management knows it well. And I believe my problem is common and many experience this.
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
How many people is there on the whole development + QA + infrastructure team?
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
How many people is there on the whole development + QA + infrastructure team?
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
@lalala: We are actually using an agile process to build safety critical software (of the sort that needs to be officially certified), so the two don't exclude each other.
– Bart van Ingen Schenau
yesterday
@lalala: We are actually using an agile process to build safety critical software (of the sort that needs to be officially certified), so the two don't exclude each other.
– Bart van Ingen Schenau
yesterday
add a comment |
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I second ctrl-atl-delor (+1!) - you should invest on automation.
Agile methodology helps on how work is organized, but regardless of the methodology, you should automate as much as possible of your work.
We have a similar scenario in our project - and I'd guess it's fairly common on legacy applications.
You have two main fronts of work:
- SDLC automation: Continuous Integration, Delivery and Deployment
- Testing automation: BDD and TDD might be helpful.
Based on your scenario, you'll need to assess which areas within SDLC or Testing automation you can obtain benefits faster (the low-hanging fruits).
You'll need support from either C-level and / or stakeholders, as you'll definitely need to invest time and effort on it.
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
Yes, I agree with you. Automation and Test driven development could solve most of my pains. But its way to go. Need alignment with my management
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
If your scenario is similar to mine, one of the key points is to define the items to deliver to UAT, how to identify them and ensure they're tested. That can be achieved with more (lightweight) process.
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
add a comment |
Well done you are doing a grate job. Scrum has lead you to diagnose several problems with your process.
I would recommend devops, developers and ops merge. They then fully deploy to testing (that is the same as operational). After testing you press a button to deploy to operational. Docker is a good tool to help with this.
The other thing (and most important thing) is to conduct a retrospective, when ever you detect a problem (feed back from test: Why did this happen? incomplete/secret spec?, incomplete developer testing?)
In a retrospective ask questions, without blame. When asking use 5-why. That is ask why, then ask why (5 times). E.g. Why did it break? It broke because we over loaded the donkey. Why did we over load the donkey? Because we did not know how much load we were putting on it. Why? because the scales where missing. Why? because they were being borrowed by bill. Why? Because bill does not have his own scales. Why? because of budget savings. Why? because …
answered 2 days ago
ctrl-alt-delorctrl-alt-delor
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I think you missed the most important question from the feedback - how do we make sure this never happens again? Knowing how it happened doesn't help if you don't take action to stop it happening again.
– UKMonkey
2 days ago
@UKMonkey I added a bit on retrospectives.
– ctrl-alt-delor
2 days ago
@ctrl-alt-delor Thank you
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
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I second ctrl-atl-delor (+1!) - you should invest on automation.
Agile methodology helps on how work is organized, but regardless of the methodology, you should automate as much as possible of your work.
We have a similar scenario in our project - and I'd guess it's fairly common on legacy applications.
You have two main fronts of work:
- SDLC automation: Continuous Integration, Delivery and Deployment
- Testing automation: BDD and TDD might be helpful.
Based on your scenario, you'll need to assess which areas within SDLC or Testing automation you can obtain benefits faster (the low-hanging fruits).
You'll need support from either C-level and / or stakeholders, as you'll definitely need to invest time and effort on it.
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
Yes, I agree with you. Automation and Test driven development could solve most of my pains. But its way to go. Need alignment with my management
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
If your scenario is similar to mine, one of the key points is to define the items to deliver to UAT, how to identify them and ensure they're tested. That can be achieved with more (lightweight) process.
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
add a comment |
I second ctrl-atl-delor (+1!) - you should invest on automation.
Agile methodology helps on how work is organized, but regardless of the methodology, you should automate as much as possible of your work.
We have a similar scenario in our project - and I'd guess it's fairly common on legacy applications.
You have two main fronts of work:
- SDLC automation: Continuous Integration, Delivery and Deployment
- Testing automation: BDD and TDD might be helpful.
Based on your scenario, you'll need to assess which areas within SDLC or Testing automation you can obtain benefits faster (the low-hanging fruits).
You'll need support from either C-level and / or stakeholders, as you'll definitely need to invest time and effort on it.
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
Yes, I agree with you. Automation and Test driven development could solve most of my pains. But its way to go. Need alignment with my management
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
If your scenario is similar to mine, one of the key points is to define the items to deliver to UAT, how to identify them and ensure they're tested. That can be achieved with more (lightweight) process.
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
add a comment |
I second ctrl-atl-delor (+1!) - you should invest on automation.
Agile methodology helps on how work is organized, but regardless of the methodology, you should automate as much as possible of your work.
We have a similar scenario in our project - and I'd guess it's fairly common on legacy applications.
You have two main fronts of work:
- SDLC automation: Continuous Integration, Delivery and Deployment
- Testing automation: BDD and TDD might be helpful.
Based on your scenario, you'll need to assess which areas within SDLC or Testing automation you can obtain benefits faster (the low-hanging fruits).
You'll need support from either C-level and / or stakeholders, as you'll definitely need to invest time and effort on it.
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
I second ctrl-atl-delor (+1!) - you should invest on automation.
Agile methodology helps on how work is organized, but regardless of the methodology, you should automate as much as possible of your work.
We have a similar scenario in our project - and I'd guess it's fairly common on legacy applications.
You have two main fronts of work:
- SDLC automation: Continuous Integration, Delivery and Deployment
- Testing automation: BDD and TDD might be helpful.
Based on your scenario, you'll need to assess which areas within SDLC or Testing automation you can obtain benefits faster (the low-hanging fruits).
You'll need support from either C-level and / or stakeholders, as you'll definitely need to invest time and effort on it.
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
answered 2 days ago
Tiago Cardoso♦Tiago Cardoso
5,45231852
5,45231852
Yes, I agree with you. Automation and Test driven development could solve most of my pains. But its way to go. Need alignment with my management
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
If your scenario is similar to mine, one of the key points is to define the items to deliver to UAT, how to identify them and ensure they're tested. That can be achieved with more (lightweight) process.
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
add a comment |
Yes, I agree with you. Automation and Test driven development could solve most of my pains. But its way to go. Need alignment with my management
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
If your scenario is similar to mine, one of the key points is to define the items to deliver to UAT, how to identify them and ensure they're tested. That can be achieved with more (lightweight) process.
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
Yes, I agree with you. Automation and Test driven development could solve most of my pains. But its way to go. Need alignment with my management
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
Yes, I agree with you. Automation and Test driven development could solve most of my pains. But its way to go. Need alignment with my management
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
If your scenario is similar to mine, one of the key points is to define the items to deliver to UAT, how to identify them and ensure they're tested. That can be achieved with more (lightweight) process.
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
If your scenario is similar to mine, one of the key points is to define the items to deliver to UAT, how to identify them and ensure they're tested. That can be achieved with more (lightweight) process.
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
add a comment |
Well done you are doing a grate job. Scrum has lead you to diagnose several problems with your process.
I would recommend devops, developers and ops merge. They then fully deploy to testing (that is the same as operational). After testing you press a button to deploy to operational. Docker is a good tool to help with this.
The other thing (and most important thing) is to conduct a retrospective, when ever you detect a problem (feed back from test: Why did this happen? incomplete/secret spec?, incomplete developer testing?)
In a retrospective ask questions, without blame. When asking use 5-why. That is ask why, then ask why (5 times). E.g. Why did it break? It broke because we over loaded the donkey. Why did we over load the donkey? Because we did not know how much load we were putting on it. Why? because the scales where missing. Why? because they were being borrowed by bill. Why? Because bill does not have his own scales. Why? because of budget savings. Why? because …
answered 2 days ago
ctrl-alt-delorctrl-alt-delor
243110
I think you missed the most important question from the feedback - how do we make sure this never happens again? Knowing how it happened doesn't help if you don't take action to stop it happening again.
– UKMonkey
2 days ago
@UKMonkey I added a bit on retrospectives.
– ctrl-alt-delor
2 days ago
@ctrl-alt-delor Thank you
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
add a comment |
Well done you are doing a grate job. Scrum has lead you to diagnose several problems with your process.
I would recommend devops, developers and ops merge. They then fully deploy to testing (that is the same as operational). After testing you press a button to deploy to operational. Docker is a good tool to help with this.
The other thing (and most important thing) is to conduct a retrospective, when ever you detect a problem (feed back from test: Why did this happen? incomplete/secret spec?, incomplete developer testing?)
In a retrospective ask questions, without blame. When asking use 5-why. That is ask why, then ask why (5 times). E.g. Why did it break? It broke because we over loaded the donkey. Why did we over load the donkey? Because we did not know how much load we were putting on it. Why? because the scales where missing. Why? because they were being borrowed by bill. Why? Because bill does not have his own scales. Why? because of budget savings. Why? because …
answered 2 days ago
ctrl-alt-delorctrl-alt-delor
243110
I think you missed the most important question from the feedback - how do we make sure this never happens again? Knowing how it happened doesn't help if you don't take action to stop it happening again.
– UKMonkey
2 days ago
@UKMonkey I added a bit on retrospectives.
– ctrl-alt-delor
2 days ago
@ctrl-alt-delor Thank you
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
add a comment |
Well done you are doing a grate job. Scrum has lead you to diagnose several problems with your process.
I would recommend devops, developers and ops merge. They then fully deploy to testing (that is the same as operational). After testing you press a button to deploy to operational. Docker is a good tool to help with this.
The other thing (and most important thing) is to conduct a retrospective, when ever you detect a problem (feed back from test: Why did this happen? incomplete/secret spec?, incomplete developer testing?)
In a retrospective ask questions, without blame. When asking use 5-why. That is ask why, then ask why (5 times). E.g. Why did it break? It broke because we over loaded the donkey. Why did we over load the donkey? Because we did not know how much load we were putting on it. Why? because the scales where missing. Why? because they were being borrowed by bill. Why? Because bill does not have his own scales. Why? because of budget savings. Why? because …
answered 2 days ago
ctrl-alt-delorctrl-alt-delor
243110
Well done you are doing a grate job. Scrum has lead you to diagnose several problems with your process.
I would recommend devops, developers and ops merge. They then fully deploy to testing (that is the same as operational). After testing you press a button to deploy to operational. Docker is a good tool to help with this.
The other thing (and most important thing) is to conduct a retrospective, when ever you detect a problem (feed back from test: Why did this happen? incomplete/secret spec?, incomplete developer testing?)
In a retrospective ask questions, without blame. When asking use 5-why. That is ask why, then ask why (5 times). E.g. Why did it break? It broke because we over loaded the donkey. Why did we over load the donkey? Because we did not know how much load we were putting on it. Why? because the scales where missing. Why? because they were being borrowed by bill. Why? Because bill does not have his own scales. Why? because of budget savings. Why? because …
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I think you missed the most important question from the feedback - how do we make sure this never happens again? Knowing how it happened doesn't help if you don't take action to stop it happening again.
– UKMonkey
2 days ago
@UKMonkey I added a bit on retrospectives.
– ctrl-alt-delor
2 days ago
@ctrl-alt-delor Thank you
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
add a comment |
I think you missed the most important question from the feedback - how do we make sure this never happens again? Knowing how it happened doesn't help if you don't take action to stop it happening again.
– UKMonkey
2 days ago
@UKMonkey I added a bit on retrospectives.
– ctrl-alt-delor
2 days ago
@ctrl-alt-delor Thank you
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
I think you missed the most important question from the feedback - how do we make sure this never happens again? Knowing how it happened doesn't help if you don't take action to stop it happening again.
– UKMonkey
2 days ago
I think you missed the most important question from the feedback - how do we make sure this never happens again? Knowing how it happened doesn't help if you don't take action to stop it happening again.
– UKMonkey
2 days ago
@UKMonkey I added a bit on retrospectives.
– ctrl-alt-delor
2 days ago
@UKMonkey I added a bit on retrospectives.
– ctrl-alt-delor
2 days ago
@ctrl-alt-delor Thank you
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
@ctrl-alt-delor Thank you
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
add a comment |
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Since, we are talking Fintech: what is actually the risk if the software has a serious bug? Millions? Billions? Then you should consider if a methodology for safety critical software might be preferable over an agile process.
– lalala
2 days ago
Yes thats true, but Agile is most popular and my management knows it well. And I believe my problem is common and many experience this.
– Toufiq Mahmud
yesterday
How many people is there on the whole development + QA + infrastructure team?
– Tiago Cardoso♦
yesterday
@lalala: We are actually using an agile process to build safety critical software (of the sort that needs to be officially certified), so the two don't exclude each other.
– Bart van Ingen Schenau
yesterday