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Can we say or write : “No, it'sn't”?
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I know we can answer either :
- No, it's not
- No, it isn't
But is it accepted and understandable to write :
No, it'sn't
What about saying it ?
contractions answers
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I know we can answer either :
- No, it's not
- No, it isn't
But is it accepted and understandable to write :
No, it'sn't
What about saying it ?
contractions answers
New contributor
Related: english.stackexchange.com/q/15001/216106
– Davo
2 days ago
3
Nobody says it, because it's unpronounceable. I don't think you need any more "logic" than that fact!
– alephzero
2 days ago
It is incorrect in writing and it is incorrect in speech.
– chasly from UK
2 days ago
2
If you are Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll) you may write this. If you aren't, you mayn't.
– A. I. Breveleri
yesterday
1
@alephzero: Do you find it harder to pronounce than isn't or hadn't?
– ruakh
22 hours ago
add a comment |
I know we can answer either :
- No, it's not
- No, it isn't
But is it accepted and understandable to write :
No, it'sn't
What about saying it ?
contractions answers
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I know we can answer either :
- No, it's not
- No, it isn't
But is it accepted and understandable to write :
No, it'sn't
What about saying it ?
contractions answers
contractions answers
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New contributor
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Related: english.stackexchange.com/q/15001/216106
– Davo
2 days ago
3
Nobody says it, because it's unpronounceable. I don't think you need any more "logic" than that fact!
– alephzero
2 days ago
It is incorrect in writing and it is incorrect in speech.
– chasly from UK
2 days ago
2
If you are Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll) you may write this. If you aren't, you mayn't.
– A. I. Breveleri
yesterday
1
@alephzero: Do you find it harder to pronounce than isn't or hadn't?
– ruakh
22 hours ago
add a comment |
Related: english.stackexchange.com/q/15001/216106
– Davo
2 days ago
3
Nobody says it, because it's unpronounceable. I don't think you need any more "logic" than that fact!
– alephzero
2 days ago
It is incorrect in writing and it is incorrect in speech.
– chasly from UK
2 days ago
2
If you are Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll) you may write this. If you aren't, you mayn't.
– A. I. Breveleri
yesterday
1
@alephzero: Do you find it harder to pronounce than isn't or hadn't?
– ruakh
22 hours ago
Related: english.stackexchange.com/q/15001/216106
– Davo
2 days ago
Related: english.stackexchange.com/q/15001/216106
– Davo
2 days ago
3
3
Nobody says it, because it's unpronounceable. I don't think you need any more "logic" than that fact!
– alephzero
2 days ago
Nobody says it, because it's unpronounceable. I don't think you need any more "logic" than that fact!
– alephzero
2 days ago
It is incorrect in writing and it is incorrect in speech.
– chasly from UK
2 days ago
It is incorrect in writing and it is incorrect in speech.
– chasly from UK
2 days ago
2
2
If you are Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll) you may write this. If you aren't, you mayn't.
– A. I. Breveleri
yesterday
If you are Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll) you may write this. If you aren't, you mayn't.
– A. I. Breveleri
yesterday
1
1
@alephzero: Do you find it harder to pronounce than isn't or hadn't?
– ruakh
22 hours ago
@alephzero: Do you find it harder to pronounce than isn't or hadn't?
– ruakh
22 hours ago
add a comment |
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An acceptable, if somewhat archaic, contraction would be
'tisn't
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%27tisn%27t
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This is a word that I use! I'm really curious now why it is acceptable to me and it'sn't it'sn't. (Though, of course, 'tisn't is only acceptable to me at the beginning of a clause)
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
According to @Spitemaster, your answer "tisn't" can't be placed after "No", right? Like in my post, "No, 'tisn't"?
– J.Khamphousone
2 days ago
This still exists in some British English dialects as "'ti'n't." But not in written English!
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
t'isn't
is not archaic in everyday speech in parts of the West of England.
– Michael Harvey
2 days ago
1
@J.Khamphousone In that case, "'tisn't" is at the start of a clause (unless I'm doing my grammar wrong). In any case, it seems alright to me.
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
You are asking if it is acceptable to write:
No, it'sn't
The answer is: no, it is not acceptable.
A contraction is normally (and traditionally) of two words, not three. So when you intend to say "it is not" you can either contract "it is" to "it's", or "is not" to "isn't".
Exceptions to this would fall under the description of nonstandard, colloquial or dialectal contractions - where regional dialects slur words together so they sound like a contraction, but strictly speaking they should not be written as such. True, some writers of literature use artistic licence and make their own written representations of such dialects. Generally, though, these would be pronounceable phonetically. I suggest that your example of "it'sn't" is neither acceptable according to the rules of grammar, nor is it a representation of any dialect. It looks like it would be pronounced as "itsent", and that is not anything I have ever heard as a well-travelled native British English speaker.
17
If you'd've posed this answer before I read this question, I'd've agreed.
– Davo
2 days ago
5
Acceptability depends in the main on the context, register, and situation. The word in question is definitely pronounceable. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/it%27sn%27t
– userr2684291
2 days ago
12
I disagree with "A contraction is of two words, not three". In some works you see words like "couldn't've". Perhaps it's not the primary spelling but it does seem to be an acceptable alternative to many writers.
– Muzer
2 days ago
6
I think you're on shaky ground when you say that three-word contractions don't exist. I wouldn't've said that. (That's another example, along with the previous comment.) In this case, the specific example wouldn't be used. I also think that while pronunciation plays part of the role, the bigger issue is simply that it isn't done with this particular set of words.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
3
"O'clock" is a contraction for "o[f the ]clock", and is hardly non-standard. It does, however, have a single apostrophe, which seems to be the critical criterion for a contraction to be "standard".
– Monty Harder
2 days ago
|
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It is neither accepted nor understandable to say or write that. Say it isn't (2 words). Or you could say "it's not".
add a comment |
'tain't okay.
"It is not" can be contracted into a single contraction. This contraction is different from the one proposed by the original poster. According to Merriam-Webster, "'tain't" is at least 245 years old. Because it includes "ain't", it is not Standard English.
"'tain't" is probably more acceptable in American English than British English.
– Martin Bonner
10 hours ago
@MartinBonner : That's 'coz AmE is tainted.
– Magoo
9 hours ago
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An acceptable, if somewhat archaic, contraction would be
'tisn't
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%27tisn%27t
New contributor
This is a word that I use! I'm really curious now why it is acceptable to me and it'sn't it'sn't. (Though, of course, 'tisn't is only acceptable to me at the beginning of a clause)
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
According to @Spitemaster, your answer "tisn't" can't be placed after "No", right? Like in my post, "No, 'tisn't"?
– J.Khamphousone
2 days ago
This still exists in some British English dialects as "'ti'n't." But not in written English!
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
t'isn't
is not archaic in everyday speech in parts of the West of England.
– Michael Harvey
2 days ago
1
@J.Khamphousone In that case, "'tisn't" is at the start of a clause (unless I'm doing my grammar wrong). In any case, it seems alright to me.
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
An acceptable, if somewhat archaic, contraction would be
'tisn't
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%27tisn%27t
New contributor
This is a word that I use! I'm really curious now why it is acceptable to me and it'sn't it'sn't. (Though, of course, 'tisn't is only acceptable to me at the beginning of a clause)
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
According to @Spitemaster, your answer "tisn't" can't be placed after "No", right? Like in my post, "No, 'tisn't"?
– J.Khamphousone
2 days ago
This still exists in some British English dialects as "'ti'n't." But not in written English!
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
t'isn't
is not archaic in everyday speech in parts of the West of England.
– Michael Harvey
2 days ago
1
@J.Khamphousone In that case, "'tisn't" is at the start of a clause (unless I'm doing my grammar wrong). In any case, it seems alright to me.
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
An acceptable, if somewhat archaic, contraction would be
'tisn't
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%27tisn%27t
New contributor
An acceptable, if somewhat archaic, contraction would be
'tisn't
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%27tisn%27t
New contributor
New contributor
answered 2 days ago
GranBurguesaGranBurguesa
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This is a word that I use! I'm really curious now why it is acceptable to me and it'sn't it'sn't. (Though, of course, 'tisn't is only acceptable to me at the beginning of a clause)
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
According to @Spitemaster, your answer "tisn't" can't be placed after "No", right? Like in my post, "No, 'tisn't"?
– J.Khamphousone
2 days ago
This still exists in some British English dialects as "'ti'n't." But not in written English!
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
t'isn't
is not archaic in everyday speech in parts of the West of England.
– Michael Harvey
2 days ago
1
@J.Khamphousone In that case, "'tisn't" is at the start of a clause (unless I'm doing my grammar wrong). In any case, it seems alright to me.
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
This is a word that I use! I'm really curious now why it is acceptable to me and it'sn't it'sn't. (Though, of course, 'tisn't is only acceptable to me at the beginning of a clause)
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
According to @Spitemaster, your answer "tisn't" can't be placed after "No", right? Like in my post, "No, 'tisn't"?
– J.Khamphousone
2 days ago
This still exists in some British English dialects as "'ti'n't." But not in written English!
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
t'isn't
is not archaic in everyday speech in parts of the West of England.
– Michael Harvey
2 days ago
1
@J.Khamphousone In that case, "'tisn't" is at the start of a clause (unless I'm doing my grammar wrong). In any case, it seems alright to me.
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
This is a word that I use! I'm really curious now why it is acceptable to me and it'sn't it'sn't. (Though, of course, 'tisn't is only acceptable to me at the beginning of a clause)
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
This is a word that I use! I'm really curious now why it is acceptable to me and it'sn't it'sn't. (Though, of course, 'tisn't is only acceptable to me at the beginning of a clause)
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
According to @Spitemaster, your answer "tisn't" can't be placed after "No", right? Like in my post, "No, 'tisn't"?
– J.Khamphousone
2 days ago
According to @Spitemaster, your answer "tisn't" can't be placed after "No", right? Like in my post, "No, 'tisn't"?
– J.Khamphousone
2 days ago
This still exists in some British English dialects as "'ti'n't." But not in written English!
– alephzero
2 days ago
This still exists in some British English dialects as "'ti'n't." But not in written English!
– alephzero
2 days ago
3
3
t'isn't
is not archaic in everyday speech in parts of the West of England.– Michael Harvey
2 days ago
t'isn't
is not archaic in everyday speech in parts of the West of England.– Michael Harvey
2 days ago
1
1
@J.Khamphousone In that case, "'tisn't" is at the start of a clause (unless I'm doing my grammar wrong). In any case, it seems alright to me.
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
@J.Khamphousone In that case, "'tisn't" is at the start of a clause (unless I'm doing my grammar wrong). In any case, it seems alright to me.
– Spitemaster
2 days ago
|
show 3 more comments
You are asking if it is acceptable to write:
No, it'sn't
The answer is: no, it is not acceptable.
A contraction is normally (and traditionally) of two words, not three. So when you intend to say "it is not" you can either contract "it is" to "it's", or "is not" to "isn't".
Exceptions to this would fall under the description of nonstandard, colloquial or dialectal contractions - where regional dialects slur words together so they sound like a contraction, but strictly speaking they should not be written as such. True, some writers of literature use artistic licence and make their own written representations of such dialects. Generally, though, these would be pronounceable phonetically. I suggest that your example of "it'sn't" is neither acceptable according to the rules of grammar, nor is it a representation of any dialect. It looks like it would be pronounced as "itsent", and that is not anything I have ever heard as a well-travelled native British English speaker.
17
If you'd've posed this answer before I read this question, I'd've agreed.
– Davo
2 days ago
5
Acceptability depends in the main on the context, register, and situation. The word in question is definitely pronounceable. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/it%27sn%27t
– userr2684291
2 days ago
12
I disagree with "A contraction is of two words, not three". In some works you see words like "couldn't've". Perhaps it's not the primary spelling but it does seem to be an acceptable alternative to many writers.
– Muzer
2 days ago
6
I think you're on shaky ground when you say that three-word contractions don't exist. I wouldn't've said that. (That's another example, along with the previous comment.) In this case, the specific example wouldn't be used. I also think that while pronunciation plays part of the role, the bigger issue is simply that it isn't done with this particular set of words.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
3
"O'clock" is a contraction for "o[f the ]clock", and is hardly non-standard. It does, however, have a single apostrophe, which seems to be the critical criterion for a contraction to be "standard".
– Monty Harder
2 days ago
|
show 12 more comments
You are asking if it is acceptable to write:
No, it'sn't
The answer is: no, it is not acceptable.
A contraction is normally (and traditionally) of two words, not three. So when you intend to say "it is not" you can either contract "it is" to "it's", or "is not" to "isn't".
Exceptions to this would fall under the description of nonstandard, colloquial or dialectal contractions - where regional dialects slur words together so they sound like a contraction, but strictly speaking they should not be written as such. True, some writers of literature use artistic licence and make their own written representations of such dialects. Generally, though, these would be pronounceable phonetically. I suggest that your example of "it'sn't" is neither acceptable according to the rules of grammar, nor is it a representation of any dialect. It looks like it would be pronounced as "itsent", and that is not anything I have ever heard as a well-travelled native British English speaker.
17
If you'd've posed this answer before I read this question, I'd've agreed.
– Davo
2 days ago
5
Acceptability depends in the main on the context, register, and situation. The word in question is definitely pronounceable. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/it%27sn%27t
– userr2684291
2 days ago
12
I disagree with "A contraction is of two words, not three". In some works you see words like "couldn't've". Perhaps it's not the primary spelling but it does seem to be an acceptable alternative to many writers.
– Muzer
2 days ago
6
I think you're on shaky ground when you say that three-word contractions don't exist. I wouldn't've said that. (That's another example, along with the previous comment.) In this case, the specific example wouldn't be used. I also think that while pronunciation plays part of the role, the bigger issue is simply that it isn't done with this particular set of words.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
3
"O'clock" is a contraction for "o[f the ]clock", and is hardly non-standard. It does, however, have a single apostrophe, which seems to be the critical criterion for a contraction to be "standard".
– Monty Harder
2 days ago
|
show 12 more comments
You are asking if it is acceptable to write:
No, it'sn't
The answer is: no, it is not acceptable.
A contraction is normally (and traditionally) of two words, not three. So when you intend to say "it is not" you can either contract "it is" to "it's", or "is not" to "isn't".
Exceptions to this would fall under the description of nonstandard, colloquial or dialectal contractions - where regional dialects slur words together so they sound like a contraction, but strictly speaking they should not be written as such. True, some writers of literature use artistic licence and make their own written representations of such dialects. Generally, though, these would be pronounceable phonetically. I suggest that your example of "it'sn't" is neither acceptable according to the rules of grammar, nor is it a representation of any dialect. It looks like it would be pronounced as "itsent", and that is not anything I have ever heard as a well-travelled native British English speaker.
You are asking if it is acceptable to write:
No, it'sn't
The answer is: no, it is not acceptable.
A contraction is normally (and traditionally) of two words, not three. So when you intend to say "it is not" you can either contract "it is" to "it's", or "is not" to "isn't".
Exceptions to this would fall under the description of nonstandard, colloquial or dialectal contractions - where regional dialects slur words together so they sound like a contraction, but strictly speaking they should not be written as such. True, some writers of literature use artistic licence and make their own written representations of such dialects. Generally, though, these would be pronounceable phonetically. I suggest that your example of "it'sn't" is neither acceptable according to the rules of grammar, nor is it a representation of any dialect. It looks like it would be pronounced as "itsent", and that is not anything I have ever heard as a well-travelled native British English speaker.
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17
If you'd've posed this answer before I read this question, I'd've agreed.
– Davo
2 days ago
5
Acceptability depends in the main on the context, register, and situation. The word in question is definitely pronounceable. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/it%27sn%27t
– userr2684291
2 days ago
12
I disagree with "A contraction is of two words, not three". In some works you see words like "couldn't've". Perhaps it's not the primary spelling but it does seem to be an acceptable alternative to many writers.
– Muzer
2 days ago
6
I think you're on shaky ground when you say that three-word contractions don't exist. I wouldn't've said that. (That's another example, along with the previous comment.) In this case, the specific example wouldn't be used. I also think that while pronunciation plays part of the role, the bigger issue is simply that it isn't done with this particular set of words.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
3
"O'clock" is a contraction for "o[f the ]clock", and is hardly non-standard. It does, however, have a single apostrophe, which seems to be the critical criterion for a contraction to be "standard".
– Monty Harder
2 days ago
|
show 12 more comments
17
If you'd've posed this answer before I read this question, I'd've agreed.
– Davo
2 days ago
5
Acceptability depends in the main on the context, register, and situation. The word in question is definitely pronounceable. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/it%27sn%27t
– userr2684291
2 days ago
12
I disagree with "A contraction is of two words, not three". In some works you see words like "couldn't've". Perhaps it's not the primary spelling but it does seem to be an acceptable alternative to many writers.
– Muzer
2 days ago
6
I think you're on shaky ground when you say that three-word contractions don't exist. I wouldn't've said that. (That's another example, along with the previous comment.) In this case, the specific example wouldn't be used. I also think that while pronunciation plays part of the role, the bigger issue is simply that it isn't done with this particular set of words.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
3
"O'clock" is a contraction for "o[f the ]clock", and is hardly non-standard. It does, however, have a single apostrophe, which seems to be the critical criterion for a contraction to be "standard".
– Monty Harder
2 days ago
17
17
If you'd've posed this answer before I read this question, I'd've agreed.
– Davo
2 days ago
If you'd've posed this answer before I read this question, I'd've agreed.
– Davo
2 days ago
5
5
Acceptability depends in the main on the context, register, and situation. The word in question is definitely pronounceable. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/it%27sn%27t
– userr2684291
2 days ago
Acceptability depends in the main on the context, register, and situation. The word in question is definitely pronounceable. en.wiktionary.org/wiki/it%27sn%27t
– userr2684291
2 days ago
12
12
I disagree with "A contraction is of two words, not three". In some works you see words like "couldn't've". Perhaps it's not the primary spelling but it does seem to be an acceptable alternative to many writers.
– Muzer
2 days ago
I disagree with "A contraction is of two words, not three". In some works you see words like "couldn't've". Perhaps it's not the primary spelling but it does seem to be an acceptable alternative to many writers.
– Muzer
2 days ago
6
6
I think you're on shaky ground when you say that three-word contractions don't exist. I wouldn't've said that. (That's another example, along with the previous comment.) In this case, the specific example wouldn't be used. I also think that while pronunciation plays part of the role, the bigger issue is simply that it isn't done with this particular set of words.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
I think you're on shaky ground when you say that three-word contractions don't exist. I wouldn't've said that. (That's another example, along with the previous comment.) In this case, the specific example wouldn't be used. I also think that while pronunciation plays part of the role, the bigger issue is simply that it isn't done with this particular set of words.
– Jason Bassford
2 days ago
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"O'clock" is a contraction for "o[f the ]clock", and is hardly non-standard. It does, however, have a single apostrophe, which seems to be the critical criterion for a contraction to be "standard".
– Monty Harder
2 days ago
"O'clock" is a contraction for "o[f the ]clock", and is hardly non-standard. It does, however, have a single apostrophe, which seems to be the critical criterion for a contraction to be "standard".
– Monty Harder
2 days ago
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It is neither accepted nor understandable to say or write that. Say it isn't (2 words). Or you could say "it's not".
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It is neither accepted nor understandable to say or write that. Say it isn't (2 words). Or you could say "it's not".
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It is neither accepted nor understandable to say or write that. Say it isn't (2 words). Or you could say "it's not".
It is neither accepted nor understandable to say or write that. Say it isn't (2 words). Or you could say "it's not".
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Michael HarveyMichael Harvey
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'tain't okay.
"It is not" can be contracted into a single contraction. This contraction is different from the one proposed by the original poster. According to Merriam-Webster, "'tain't" is at least 245 years old. Because it includes "ain't", it is not Standard English.
"'tain't" is probably more acceptable in American English than British English.
– Martin Bonner
10 hours ago
@MartinBonner : That's 'coz AmE is tainted.
– Magoo
9 hours ago
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'tain't okay.
"It is not" can be contracted into a single contraction. This contraction is different from the one proposed by the original poster. According to Merriam-Webster, "'tain't" is at least 245 years old. Because it includes "ain't", it is not Standard English.
"'tain't" is probably more acceptable in American English than British English.
– Martin Bonner
10 hours ago
@MartinBonner : That's 'coz AmE is tainted.
– Magoo
9 hours ago
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'tain't okay.
"It is not" can be contracted into a single contraction. This contraction is different from the one proposed by the original poster. According to Merriam-Webster, "'tain't" is at least 245 years old. Because it includes "ain't", it is not Standard English.
'tain't okay.
"It is not" can be contracted into a single contraction. This contraction is different from the one proposed by the original poster. According to Merriam-Webster, "'tain't" is at least 245 years old. Because it includes "ain't", it is not Standard English.
answered 2 days ago
JasperJasper
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"'tain't" is probably more acceptable in American English than British English.
– Martin Bonner
10 hours ago
@MartinBonner : That's 'coz AmE is tainted.
– Magoo
9 hours ago
add a comment |
"'tain't" is probably more acceptable in American English than British English.
– Martin Bonner
10 hours ago
@MartinBonner : That's 'coz AmE is tainted.
– Magoo
9 hours ago
"'tain't" is probably more acceptable in American English than British English.
– Martin Bonner
10 hours ago
"'tain't" is probably more acceptable in American English than British English.
– Martin Bonner
10 hours ago
@MartinBonner : That's 'coz AmE is tainted.
– Magoo
9 hours ago
@MartinBonner : That's 'coz AmE is tainted.
– Magoo
9 hours ago
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– Davo
2 days ago
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Nobody says it, because it's unpronounceable. I don't think you need any more "logic" than that fact!
– alephzero
2 days ago
It is incorrect in writing and it is incorrect in speech.
– chasly from UK
2 days ago
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If you are Charles Lutwidge Dodgson (aka Lewis Carroll) you may write this. If you aren't, you mayn't.
– A. I. Breveleri
yesterday
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@alephzero: Do you find it harder to pronounce than isn't or hadn't?
– ruakh
22 hours ago