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What effect does the “loading” weapon property have in practical terms?



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What effect does the “loading” weapon property have in practical terms?



  1. In the absence of the property, why would it be assumed that a PC could fire more than once per action (firing once would be one action)?


  2. The scenario I’m picturing is where a PC has action, bonus action, and reaction on a turn. It would seem that a PC could fire 3 times.


In essence, this property doesn’t seem to make any difference (at least that I can see).










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    What effect does the “loading” weapon property have in practical terms?



    1. In the absence of the property, why would it be assumed that a PC could fire more than once per action (firing once would be one action)?


    2. The scenario I’m picturing is where a PC has action, bonus action, and reaction on a turn. It would seem that a PC could fire 3 times.


    In essence, this property doesn’t seem to make any difference (at least that I can see).










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      What effect does the “loading” weapon property have in practical terms?



      1. In the absence of the property, why would it be assumed that a PC could fire more than once per action (firing once would be one action)?


      2. The scenario I’m picturing is where a PC has action, bonus action, and reaction on a turn. It would seem that a PC could fire 3 times.


      In essence, this property doesn’t seem to make any difference (at least that I can see).










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      What effect does the “loading” weapon property have in practical terms?



      1. In the absence of the property, why would it be assumed that a PC could fire more than once per action (firing once would be one action)?


      2. The scenario I’m picturing is where a PC has action, bonus action, and reaction on a turn. It would seem that a PC could fire 3 times.


      In essence, this property doesn’t seem to make any difference (at least that I can see).







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          It limits PCs with the Extra Attack class feature



          A 5th level Fighter (and many other classes) are able to make multiple attacks as part of their Attack Action. The Loading property prevents a character with Extra Attack from making multiple attacks with that weapon.






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            This would be rather overpowered if the Fighter could use a Heavy crossbow 4 times on his/her turn. 4 times 5.5 (H. crossbow) vs. 4 times 4.5 (Longbow). If you were allowed to ignore Loading, you could deal 22 damage avg. per turn as opposed to 18.
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            @TheCentaur I didn't mention it in my answer because it wasn't relevant, but the Crossbow Expert feat lets you do just that. :P
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            @Nesbitto yes it does, but it costs you a feat, for +1 average damage per attack. Feats in 5e are _rare_. The Sharpshooter feat, in comparison, allows you to deal +10 damage if you reduce your attack roll by 5.
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          It limits PCs with the Extra Attack class feature



          A 5th level Fighter (and many other classes) are able to make multiple attacks as part of their Attack Action. The Loading property prevents a character with Extra Attack from making multiple attacks with that weapon.






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            This would be rather overpowered if the Fighter could use a Heavy crossbow 4 times on his/her turn. 4 times 5.5 (H. crossbow) vs. 4 times 4.5 (Longbow). If you were allowed to ignore Loading, you could deal 22 damage avg. per turn as opposed to 18.
            $endgroup$
            – TheCentaur
            Apr 10 at 0:58






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @TheCentaur I didn't mention it in my answer because it wasn't relevant, but the Crossbow Expert feat lets you do just that. :P
            $endgroup$
            – Nesbitto
            Apr 10 at 4:25






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            $begingroup$
            @Nesbitto yes it does, but it costs you a feat, for +1 average damage per attack. Feats in 5e are _rare_. The Sharpshooter feat, in comparison, allows you to deal +10 damage if you reduce your attack roll by 5.
            $endgroup$
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          $begingroup$

          It limits PCs with the Extra Attack class feature



          A 5th level Fighter (and many other classes) are able to make multiple attacks as part of their Attack Action. The Loading property prevents a character with Extra Attack from making multiple attacks with that weapon.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$












          • $begingroup$
            This would be rather overpowered if the Fighter could use a Heavy crossbow 4 times on his/her turn. 4 times 5.5 (H. crossbow) vs. 4 times 4.5 (Longbow). If you were allowed to ignore Loading, you could deal 22 damage avg. per turn as opposed to 18.
            $endgroup$
            – TheCentaur
            Apr 10 at 0:58






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @TheCentaur I didn't mention it in my answer because it wasn't relevant, but the Crossbow Expert feat lets you do just that. :P
            $endgroup$
            – Nesbitto
            Apr 10 at 4:25






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Nesbitto yes it does, but it costs you a feat, for +1 average damage per attack. Feats in 5e are _rare_. The Sharpshooter feat, in comparison, allows you to deal +10 damage if you reduce your attack roll by 5.
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            Apr 10 at 10:50














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          $begingroup$

          It limits PCs with the Extra Attack class feature



          A 5th level Fighter (and many other classes) are able to make multiple attacks as part of their Attack Action. The Loading property prevents a character with Extra Attack from making multiple attacks with that weapon.






          share|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          It limits PCs with the Extra Attack class feature



          A 5th level Fighter (and many other classes) are able to make multiple attacks as part of their Attack Action. The Loading property prevents a character with Extra Attack from making multiple attacks with that weapon.







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          • $begingroup$
            This would be rather overpowered if the Fighter could use a Heavy crossbow 4 times on his/her turn. 4 times 5.5 (H. crossbow) vs. 4 times 4.5 (Longbow). If you were allowed to ignore Loading, you could deal 22 damage avg. per turn as opposed to 18.
            $endgroup$
            – TheCentaur
            Apr 10 at 0:58






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @TheCentaur I didn't mention it in my answer because it wasn't relevant, but the Crossbow Expert feat lets you do just that. :P
            $endgroup$
            – Nesbitto
            Apr 10 at 4:25






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Nesbitto yes it does, but it costs you a feat, for +1 average damage per attack. Feats in 5e are _rare_. The Sharpshooter feat, in comparison, allows you to deal +10 damage if you reduce your attack roll by 5.
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            Apr 10 at 10:50

















          • $begingroup$
            This would be rather overpowered if the Fighter could use a Heavy crossbow 4 times on his/her turn. 4 times 5.5 (H. crossbow) vs. 4 times 4.5 (Longbow). If you were allowed to ignore Loading, you could deal 22 damage avg. per turn as opposed to 18.
            $endgroup$
            – TheCentaur
            Apr 10 at 0:58






          • 2




            $begingroup$
            @TheCentaur I didn't mention it in my answer because it wasn't relevant, but the Crossbow Expert feat lets you do just that. :P
            $endgroup$
            – Nesbitto
            Apr 10 at 4:25






          • 1




            $begingroup$
            @Nesbitto yes it does, but it costs you a feat, for +1 average damage per attack. Feats in 5e are _rare_. The Sharpshooter feat, in comparison, allows you to deal +10 damage if you reduce your attack roll by 5.
            $endgroup$
            – PixelMaster
            Apr 10 at 10:50
















          $begingroup$
          This would be rather overpowered if the Fighter could use a Heavy crossbow 4 times on his/her turn. 4 times 5.5 (H. crossbow) vs. 4 times 4.5 (Longbow). If you were allowed to ignore Loading, you could deal 22 damage avg. per turn as opposed to 18.
          $endgroup$
          – TheCentaur
          Apr 10 at 0:58




          $begingroup$
          This would be rather overpowered if the Fighter could use a Heavy crossbow 4 times on his/her turn. 4 times 5.5 (H. crossbow) vs. 4 times 4.5 (Longbow). If you were allowed to ignore Loading, you could deal 22 damage avg. per turn as opposed to 18.
          $endgroup$
          – TheCentaur
          Apr 10 at 0:58




          2




          2




          $begingroup$
          @TheCentaur I didn't mention it in my answer because it wasn't relevant, but the Crossbow Expert feat lets you do just that. :P
          $endgroup$
          – Nesbitto
          Apr 10 at 4:25




          $begingroup$
          @TheCentaur I didn't mention it in my answer because it wasn't relevant, but the Crossbow Expert feat lets you do just that. :P
          $endgroup$
          – Nesbitto
          Apr 10 at 4:25




          1




          1




          $begingroup$
          @Nesbitto yes it does, but it costs you a feat, for +1 average damage per attack. Feats in 5e are _rare_. The Sharpshooter feat, in comparison, allows you to deal +10 damage if you reduce your attack roll by 5.
          $endgroup$
          – PixelMaster
          Apr 10 at 10:50





          $begingroup$
          @Nesbitto yes it does, but it costs you a feat, for +1 average damage per attack. Feats in 5e are _rare_. The Sharpshooter feat, in comparison, allows you to deal +10 damage if you reduce your attack roll by 5.
          $endgroup$
          – PixelMaster
          Apr 10 at 10:50


















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