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Schmidt decomposition of coupled oscillatorsIs there a known generalization of the Schmidt decomposition based on a maximal set of “locally recorded branches”?The expectation value of entanglement entropy of composite system in a random pure stateCan every density operator be written as an outer product of two vectors?What are the energy states of a particle in a delta potential well $V(x)=-delta(x)$?Complement for joint POVMs?Pauli principle for “Phonons”Finding basis of Schmidt decompositionInverse of a matrix in a Path IntegralHow unique is the Schmidt decomposition?













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I'm trying to compute the Schmidt decomposition of $left| psi right> = (left| 00 right> + left| 01 right> + left| 10 right>)/sqrt3$. This should be possible by first computing the reduced density matrices $rho_A=Tr_Bleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| a_i right> left< a_i right|$ and $rho_B=Tr_Aleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| b_i right> left< b_i right|$, and then by identifying $left| psi right>=sum_i sqrtp_ileft| a_i right> otimes left| b_i right>$.



However, somewhere in the computation I'm doing a mistake: I find that
$$rho_A=rho_B=left(2left| 0 right> left< 0 right| + left| 0 right> left< 1 right| + left| 1 right> left< 0 right|+left| 1 right> left< 1 right|right)/3,$$
which has eigenvalues $lambda_1=0.87$ and $lambda_2=0.13$ with corresponding eigenvectors
$$ left| a_1 right>=0.85 left| 0 right> + 0.53 left| 1 right>,quad left| a_2 right>=-0.53 left| 0 right> + 0.85 left| 1 right>. $$
This means that $left| psi right>$ should be given by
$$ left| psi right> = sqrtlambda_1 left| a_1 right> otimes
left| a_1 right> + sqrtlambda_2 left| a_2 right> otimes
left| a_2 right>.$$

This, however, is not true. If you check for example the numerical value in front of $left| 00 right>$, you find that it is not equal to $1/sqrt3$.



I would appreciate if someone could help me to see where I made the mistake.



Thanks in advance.










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    I'm trying to compute the Schmidt decomposition of $left| psi right> = (left| 00 right> + left| 01 right> + left| 10 right>)/sqrt3$. This should be possible by first computing the reduced density matrices $rho_A=Tr_Bleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| a_i right> left< a_i right|$ and $rho_B=Tr_Aleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| b_i right> left< b_i right|$, and then by identifying $left| psi right>=sum_i sqrtp_ileft| a_i right> otimes left| b_i right>$.



    However, somewhere in the computation I'm doing a mistake: I find that
    $$rho_A=rho_B=left(2left| 0 right> left< 0 right| + left| 0 right> left< 1 right| + left| 1 right> left< 0 right|+left| 1 right> left< 1 right|right)/3,$$
    which has eigenvalues $lambda_1=0.87$ and $lambda_2=0.13$ with corresponding eigenvectors
    $$ left| a_1 right>=0.85 left| 0 right> + 0.53 left| 1 right>,quad left| a_2 right>=-0.53 left| 0 right> + 0.85 left| 1 right>. $$
    This means that $left| psi right>$ should be given by
    $$ left| psi right> = sqrtlambda_1 left| a_1 right> otimes
    left| a_1 right> + sqrtlambda_2 left| a_2 right> otimes
    left| a_2 right>.$$

    This, however, is not true. If you check for example the numerical value in front of $left| 00 right>$, you find that it is not equal to $1/sqrt3$.



    I would appreciate if someone could help me to see where I made the mistake.



    Thanks in advance.










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      I'm trying to compute the Schmidt decomposition of $left| psi right> = (left| 00 right> + left| 01 right> + left| 10 right>)/sqrt3$. This should be possible by first computing the reduced density matrices $rho_A=Tr_Bleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| a_i right> left< a_i right|$ and $rho_B=Tr_Aleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| b_i right> left< b_i right|$, and then by identifying $left| psi right>=sum_i sqrtp_ileft| a_i right> otimes left| b_i right>$.



      However, somewhere in the computation I'm doing a mistake: I find that
      $$rho_A=rho_B=left(2left| 0 right> left< 0 right| + left| 0 right> left< 1 right| + left| 1 right> left< 0 right|+left| 1 right> left< 1 right|right)/3,$$
      which has eigenvalues $lambda_1=0.87$ and $lambda_2=0.13$ with corresponding eigenvectors
      $$ left| a_1 right>=0.85 left| 0 right> + 0.53 left| 1 right>,quad left| a_2 right>=-0.53 left| 0 right> + 0.85 left| 1 right>. $$
      This means that $left| psi right>$ should be given by
      $$ left| psi right> = sqrtlambda_1 left| a_1 right> otimes
      left| a_1 right> + sqrtlambda_2 left| a_2 right> otimes
      left| a_2 right>.$$

      This, however, is not true. If you check for example the numerical value in front of $left| 00 right>$, you find that it is not equal to $1/sqrt3$.



      I would appreciate if someone could help me to see where I made the mistake.



      Thanks in advance.










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      I'm trying to compute the Schmidt decomposition of $left| psi right> = (left| 00 right> + left| 01 right> + left| 10 right>)/sqrt3$. This should be possible by first computing the reduced density matrices $rho_A=Tr_Bleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| a_i right> left< a_i right|$ and $rho_B=Tr_Aleft| psi right> left< psi right|=sum_i p_i left| b_i right> left< b_i right|$, and then by identifying $left| psi right>=sum_i sqrtp_ileft| a_i right> otimes left| b_i right>$.



      However, somewhere in the computation I'm doing a mistake: I find that
      $$rho_A=rho_B=left(2left| 0 right> left< 0 right| + left| 0 right> left< 1 right| + left| 1 right> left< 0 right|+left| 1 right> left< 1 right|right)/3,$$
      which has eigenvalues $lambda_1=0.87$ and $lambda_2=0.13$ with corresponding eigenvectors
      $$ left| a_1 right>=0.85 left| 0 right> + 0.53 left| 1 right>,quad left| a_2 right>=-0.53 left| 0 right> + 0.85 left| 1 right>. $$
      This means that $left| psi right>$ should be given by
      $$ left| psi right> = sqrtlambda_1 left| a_1 right> otimes
      left| a_1 right> + sqrtlambda_2 left| a_2 right> otimes
      left| a_2 right>.$$

      This, however, is not true. If you check for example the numerical value in front of $left| 00 right>$, you find that it is not equal to $1/sqrt3$.



      I would appreciate if someone could help me to see where I made the mistake.



      Thanks in advance.







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          The phase of your eigenvectors is not correct (or rather, it is not determined, so you need to make a judicious choice). If you put a minus sign in front of the 2nd term, it works out.




          To elaborate on that: If you want to find the Schmidt decomposition, you can proceed e.g. as in Preskill's lecture notes: Diagonalize the reduced state of A, which yields eigenvalues $lambda_i$ and eigenvectors $|a_irangle$. Then, rewrite
          $$
          |psirangle = sum_i |a_irangleotimes |b_irangle .tag*
          $$

          ($|b_irangle$ can be determined e.g. as $|b_irangle = langle a_i|psirangle$.) Then, the $|b_irangle$ are orthogonal with $langle b_i|b_irangle=lambda_i$ (cf. Preskill), i.e., the form $(*)$ above is the Schmidt decomposition (upon normalizing the $|b_irangle$).



          (The latter can be seen by computing the reduced density matrix of A from $(*)$, which yields
          $$
          sum |a_irangle langle a_j | ; langle b_j|b_jrangle = sum lambda_i |a_irangle langle a_i| ,
          $$

          which yields $langle b_j|b_jrangle = lambda_idelta_ij$ as the $|a_iranglelangle a_j|$ are linearly independent.)






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            Norbert Schuch's answer is correct. Just for fun, here's the exact decomposition:
            $$
            |psiranglepropto
            (3+sqrt5)|Arangleotimes |Arangle
            -(3-sqrt5)|Brangleotimes |Brangle
            $$

            with
            beginalign
            |Arangle &= 2|0rangle+(sqrt5-1)|1rangle \
            |Brangle &= 2|0rangle-(sqrt5+1)|1rangle.
            endalign

            Using these equations, we can verify that the coefficient of $|11rangle$ is zero and that the coefficients of $|00rangle$, $|01rangle$, and $|10rangle$ are all equal to each other, and
            $$
            langle A|Brangle = 0.
            $$

            Unnormalized vectors $A,B$ are used here to simplify the coefficients in the overall expression for $|psirangle$.






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              The phase of your eigenvectors is not correct (or rather, it is not determined, so you need to make a judicious choice). If you put a minus sign in front of the 2nd term, it works out.




              To elaborate on that: If you want to find the Schmidt decomposition, you can proceed e.g. as in Preskill's lecture notes: Diagonalize the reduced state of A, which yields eigenvalues $lambda_i$ and eigenvectors $|a_irangle$. Then, rewrite
              $$
              |psirangle = sum_i |a_irangleotimes |b_irangle .tag*
              $$

              ($|b_irangle$ can be determined e.g. as $|b_irangle = langle a_i|psirangle$.) Then, the $|b_irangle$ are orthogonal with $langle b_i|b_irangle=lambda_i$ (cf. Preskill), i.e., the form $(*)$ above is the Schmidt decomposition (upon normalizing the $|b_irangle$).



              (The latter can be seen by computing the reduced density matrix of A from $(*)$, which yields
              $$
              sum |a_irangle langle a_j | ; langle b_j|b_jrangle = sum lambda_i |a_irangle langle a_i| ,
              $$

              which yields $langle b_j|b_jrangle = lambda_idelta_ij$ as the $|a_iranglelangle a_j|$ are linearly independent.)






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                $begingroup$

                The phase of your eigenvectors is not correct (or rather, it is not determined, so you need to make a judicious choice). If you put a minus sign in front of the 2nd term, it works out.




                To elaborate on that: If you want to find the Schmidt decomposition, you can proceed e.g. as in Preskill's lecture notes: Diagonalize the reduced state of A, which yields eigenvalues $lambda_i$ and eigenvectors $|a_irangle$. Then, rewrite
                $$
                |psirangle = sum_i |a_irangleotimes |b_irangle .tag*
                $$

                ($|b_irangle$ can be determined e.g. as $|b_irangle = langle a_i|psirangle$.) Then, the $|b_irangle$ are orthogonal with $langle b_i|b_irangle=lambda_i$ (cf. Preskill), i.e., the form $(*)$ above is the Schmidt decomposition (upon normalizing the $|b_irangle$).



                (The latter can be seen by computing the reduced density matrix of A from $(*)$, which yields
                $$
                sum |a_irangle langle a_j | ; langle b_j|b_jrangle = sum lambda_i |a_irangle langle a_i| ,
                $$

                which yields $langle b_j|b_jrangle = lambda_idelta_ij$ as the $|a_iranglelangle a_j|$ are linearly independent.)






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                  $begingroup$

                  The phase of your eigenvectors is not correct (or rather, it is not determined, so you need to make a judicious choice). If you put a minus sign in front of the 2nd term, it works out.




                  To elaborate on that: If you want to find the Schmidt decomposition, you can proceed e.g. as in Preskill's lecture notes: Diagonalize the reduced state of A, which yields eigenvalues $lambda_i$ and eigenvectors $|a_irangle$. Then, rewrite
                  $$
                  |psirangle = sum_i |a_irangleotimes |b_irangle .tag*
                  $$

                  ($|b_irangle$ can be determined e.g. as $|b_irangle = langle a_i|psirangle$.) Then, the $|b_irangle$ are orthogonal with $langle b_i|b_irangle=lambda_i$ (cf. Preskill), i.e., the form $(*)$ above is the Schmidt decomposition (upon normalizing the $|b_irangle$).



                  (The latter can be seen by computing the reduced density matrix of A from $(*)$, which yields
                  $$
                  sum |a_irangle langle a_j | ; langle b_j|b_jrangle = sum lambda_i |a_irangle langle a_i| ,
                  $$

                  which yields $langle b_j|b_jrangle = lambda_idelta_ij$ as the $|a_iranglelangle a_j|$ are linearly independent.)






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                  The phase of your eigenvectors is not correct (or rather, it is not determined, so you need to make a judicious choice). If you put a minus sign in front of the 2nd term, it works out.




                  To elaborate on that: If you want to find the Schmidt decomposition, you can proceed e.g. as in Preskill's lecture notes: Diagonalize the reduced state of A, which yields eigenvalues $lambda_i$ and eigenvectors $|a_irangle$. Then, rewrite
                  $$
                  |psirangle = sum_i |a_irangleotimes |b_irangle .tag*
                  $$

                  ($|b_irangle$ can be determined e.g. as $|b_irangle = langle a_i|psirangle$.) Then, the $|b_irangle$ are orthogonal with $langle b_i|b_irangle=lambda_i$ (cf. Preskill), i.e., the form $(*)$ above is the Schmidt decomposition (upon normalizing the $|b_irangle$).



                  (The latter can be seen by computing the reduced density matrix of A from $(*)$, which yields
                  $$
                  sum |a_irangle langle a_j | ; langle b_j|b_jrangle = sum lambda_i |a_irangle langle a_i| ,
                  $$

                  which yields $langle b_j|b_jrangle = lambda_idelta_ij$ as the $|a_iranglelangle a_j|$ are linearly independent.)







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                      Norbert Schuch's answer is correct. Just for fun, here's the exact decomposition:
                      $$
                      |psiranglepropto
                      (3+sqrt5)|Arangleotimes |Arangle
                      -(3-sqrt5)|Brangleotimes |Brangle
                      $$

                      with
                      beginalign
                      |Arangle &= 2|0rangle+(sqrt5-1)|1rangle \
                      |Brangle &= 2|0rangle-(sqrt5+1)|1rangle.
                      endalign

                      Using these equations, we can verify that the coefficient of $|11rangle$ is zero and that the coefficients of $|00rangle$, $|01rangle$, and $|10rangle$ are all equal to each other, and
                      $$
                      langle A|Brangle = 0.
                      $$

                      Unnormalized vectors $A,B$ are used here to simplify the coefficients in the overall expression for $|psirangle$.






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                        $begingroup$

                        Norbert Schuch's answer is correct. Just for fun, here's the exact decomposition:
                        $$
                        |psiranglepropto
                        (3+sqrt5)|Arangleotimes |Arangle
                        -(3-sqrt5)|Brangleotimes |Brangle
                        $$

                        with
                        beginalign
                        |Arangle &= 2|0rangle+(sqrt5-1)|1rangle \
                        |Brangle &= 2|0rangle-(sqrt5+1)|1rangle.
                        endalign

                        Using these equations, we can verify that the coefficient of $|11rangle$ is zero and that the coefficients of $|00rangle$, $|01rangle$, and $|10rangle$ are all equal to each other, and
                        $$
                        langle A|Brangle = 0.
                        $$

                        Unnormalized vectors $A,B$ are used here to simplify the coefficients in the overall expression for $|psirangle$.






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                          Norbert Schuch's answer is correct. Just for fun, here's the exact decomposition:
                          $$
                          |psiranglepropto
                          (3+sqrt5)|Arangleotimes |Arangle
                          -(3-sqrt5)|Brangleotimes |Brangle
                          $$

                          with
                          beginalign
                          |Arangle &= 2|0rangle+(sqrt5-1)|1rangle \
                          |Brangle &= 2|0rangle-(sqrt5+1)|1rangle.
                          endalign

                          Using these equations, we can verify that the coefficient of $|11rangle$ is zero and that the coefficients of $|00rangle$, $|01rangle$, and $|10rangle$ are all equal to each other, and
                          $$
                          langle A|Brangle = 0.
                          $$

                          Unnormalized vectors $A,B$ are used here to simplify the coefficients in the overall expression for $|psirangle$.






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                          Norbert Schuch's answer is correct. Just for fun, here's the exact decomposition:
                          $$
                          |psiranglepropto
                          (3+sqrt5)|Arangleotimes |Arangle
                          -(3-sqrt5)|Brangleotimes |Brangle
                          $$

                          with
                          beginalign
                          |Arangle &= 2|0rangle+(sqrt5-1)|1rangle \
                          |Brangle &= 2|0rangle-(sqrt5+1)|1rangle.
                          endalign

                          Using these equations, we can verify that the coefficient of $|11rangle$ is zero and that the coefficients of $|00rangle$, $|01rangle$, and $|10rangle$ are all equal to each other, and
                          $$
                          langle A|Brangle = 0.
                          $$

                          Unnormalized vectors $A,B$ are used here to simplify the coefficients in the overall expression for $|psirangle$.







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